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Curses / Re: Cleaning the Slate?
« on: October 05, 2009, 07:20:17 am »
My founder gets broken out of prison but it seems he can't beat his ESCAPING PRISON charge...
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Curses / Cleaning the Slate?
« on: October 05, 2009, 04:44:36 am »
Is there a way to clean a Liberals slate after he's been to jail? I bust my founder out and try to get him innocent-ized in the court of law, he has great stats but he just can't seem to win the case... Even Mr bigshot $5000 dude couldn't win it...
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Curses / Messing With the Source Code
« on: October 04, 2009, 03:31:08 am »
Where is the general function which controls what way activities such as activism sway the political spectrum?
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Curses / Re: Conservative Crime Squad
« on: October 03, 2009, 08:13:21 pm »
No that's actually pretty good Fox... I enjoy exploring in the source but sometimes it feels like I'm fumbling around in the dark so it's good to get even a vague notion of what I'm doing...
I found the ALIGNMENT function and reversed that. This changes all the issues to turn more green as they become more conservative. But the game still gets lost when society goes arch-conservative AND I think political activism and stuff still makes society more liberal. If you get the time I'd love it if you could message me say a really quick guide to the overall source... I seem to be most capable in areas of the code that have your oversights (written in green) next to the source.
EDIT: The long and short is that I still don't understand but I'll have a poke around and see if I can figure it out.
I found the ALIGNMENT function and reversed that. This changes all the issues to turn more green as they become more conservative. But the game still gets lost when society goes arch-conservative AND I think political activism and stuff still makes society more liberal. If you get the time I'd love it if you could message me say a really quick guide to the overall source... I seem to be most capable in areas of the code that have your oversights (written in green) next to the source.
EDIT: The long and short is that I still don't understand but I'll have a poke around and see if I can figure it out.
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Curses / Re: Conservative Crime Squad
« on: October 03, 2009, 04:17:14 am »
Instead of everyone trying to justify how to reconcile the CSS into their 'libertarian vision' 
maybe I could get some practical advice on how to rebuild the source code (you can see my questions a few pages ago) so that instead of just standing around and having a lengthy debate we might actually develop a CSS.
maybe I could get some practical advice on how to rebuild the source code (you can see my questions a few pages ago) so that instead of just standing around and having a lengthy debate we might actually develop a CSS.
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Curses / Re: Conservative Crime Squad
« on: October 02, 2009, 08:58:12 am »After I figure out how to make 'political activism' and commiting conservative crime make society more conservative I will implement it in game, I've already changed all the text. I need to fix the Liberals to have a strong starting position too... Instead of the Conservatives?
It'd be a major mod, but consider leaving it alone. The big conservative fight is perceptually against the slide and decline of society, not trying to fix an inherently broken one.
No.
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Curses / Re: Conservative Crime Squad
« on: October 02, 2009, 12:13:17 am »
After I figure out how to make 'political activism' and commiting conservative crime make society more conservative I will implement it in game, I've already changed all the text. I need to fix the Liberals to have a strong starting position too... Instead of the Conservatives?
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Curses / Re: Conservative Crime Squad
« on: October 01, 2009, 02:15:30 pm »
Liberals are scourge of the earth, conservative might will prevail!
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DF Modding / Re: More Realistic Smelting
« on: September 30, 2009, 08:19:38 am »
I plan on modding a smelter that smelts smelters...
Not really... I just wanted to be included
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Not really... I just wanted to be included
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Curses / Re: [NEED HELP] Compiling the Source Code
« on: September 30, 2009, 03:41:59 am »If you've compiled already, Visual Studio has already merged all that junk into crimesquad.exe. To get from picture A to picture B, all you have to do is copy the crimesquad.exe file from picture A (it's the white box in the upper middle) and paste it over the crimesquad.exe in picture B. Then say yes if you want to overwrite. That's literally what I do when I'm building releases.
I'm an idiot...
Thanks Fox... Can't believe I couldn't figure that out after several hours of attempting to run command prompts and installing every program known to mankind...
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Curses / Re: [NEED HELP] Compiling the Source Code
« on: September 30, 2009, 12:44:59 am »I've been down the open source path you're on with the LCS source in XP, and can't say I recommend it. Just download MSVC 2008 Express Edition. It'll be far fewer headaches for you.
I've got this too but I am COMPLETELY lost in MSVC 2008, could you give me a quick guide?
PS - to elaborate further on my problem I can figure out how to load the GAME directory up in MSVC and make changes and even how to send all the new files to a RELEASE or DEBUG folder but not how to get all the individual files from that folder into a single workable .exe/LCS package???
This is what I'm seeing:
This is what I want to see:
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Curses / [NEED HELP] Compiling the Source Code
« on: September 30, 2009, 12:00:24 am »
Hey peeps... I'm stuck... Can anyone help me as to what the heck the next step is? Am I even doing it right? I got to this stage via pure exploration:
PS - I've made some changes to the game files and now I'm trying to put everything back together so I can run the game. Is this even possible using XP? All the information I've looked at refers to UNIX and is ultra-super complicated... Meanwhile the program Dev-C++ can't seem to find the files or something? There's some kind of problem...
PS - I've made some changes to the game files and now I'm trying to put everything back together so I can run the game. Is this even possible using XP? All the information I've looked at refers to UNIX and is ultra-super complicated... Meanwhile the program Dev-C++ can't seem to find the files or something? There's some kind of problem...
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Curses / Re: Conservative Crime Squad
« on: September 29, 2009, 09:21:54 pm »
Now that LCS 4.00 is done the next project could be CSS 4.00.
If Fox has the time... He probably has a lot on...
But one can dream...
If Fox has the time... He probably has a lot on...
But one can dream...
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Curses / Re: Conservative Crime Squad
« on: September 29, 2009, 07:24:12 pm »Look. The LCS is L+. The CCS is C+. Maybe conservatives don't support murdering civilians and supporting torture...but we aren't deaing with the Purple Conservative Whims. We're dealing with Arch-Conservativism..
Basically: The LCS takes extreme Liberal stances, thats the comedy. The CCS takes extreme Conservative stances...but how do you make them funny without playing to the hands of the LCS (and its sympathizers)?
EDIT: Something I wonder...the LCS seems to want things done via fiat, that merely by passing laws, an L+ utopia is complete! What if the CCS...does the same thing? What if they want a law stating in bold, "TORTURE IS MORALLY ACCEPTABLE" but nobody actually tortures (due to the fact that the standard 'starve & feed' tactic is much more effective). Even if nobody takes up the right to torture, then the CCS declares victory and cheers. Same thing with abortion. "ABORTION IS WRONG GUYS!" The CCS doesn't want this law to be enforced, oh gawd no, it just want the law on the books, so people know that abortion is wrong, and might somehow be magically persuaded to not engage in abortion.
I already find most extreme conservative stances funny. There is no need to change them at all from their current text in-game.
And your comments on abortion are misplaced. I might not be an arch-conservative but I am most definitely pro-life and vehemently oppose abortion. I would like to live in a society where it was illegal.
I like how it's OK for the game to simulate people crawling along the ground with no arms and having their bodies sawn in half by shotgun fire while screaming for mercy but the minute someone considers altering the game to be from the conservative point of view LAWDY SAVE THE CHILDREN!!!
LCS is not politically correct, nor is it always funny, it's entertainment which can have meaning derived from the interpretation of the player. And I think that the entertainment value would be advanced by allowing players to change it up and play the other side.
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liberalism is idealistic, conservatism is not. Thats why I think the game wouldent work.
So basically we should remove the CSS which already exists there from the game then?
The conservatism of the LCS forum is both amusing and ironic...
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Curses / Re: Conservative Crime Squad
« on: September 29, 2009, 06:34:46 pm »While the diehard 'liberals' who think torture and murder are an acceptable ways to be politically active are a tiny tiny minority, and considered insane, there are vast throngs of real life conservatives today who think endless torture and civilian murder are entirely fine.
Which is why playing as conservatives wouldn't be fun.
I really don't think the average conservative believes in murdering civilians, have you got any examples
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This is a scary lesson in how willing people can be to justify a criminal organization...
If anything liberals are definitely more violent that conservatives, for example see PETA which I would say is a fairly mainstream liberal group.
Without big corporations people would starve or be driven to poverty. Without the police people would be attacked and disadvantaged by certain members of society...
So it isn't murder if you take away someones food and water and then lock them in a room with thirty rapists
?If you truly hated the conservatives and believed them to be pure evil then why rejoice in making them the victims of your admittedly radical liberal minority? Because whatever anyone might say that's all the Conservatives are at the moment. Innocent victims soon to be slaughtered by the hypocritical liberal cause. I guess it's OK to kill people as long as you can confuse them first with double-talk, totalitarian rhetoric and revolutionary blood-lust disguised as fervor. If anything if all the nay-sayers are right then the only thing the CSS is that the LCS isn't is honest...
ANYWAY.
This thread is not about arguing about whether a CCS is a good idea or not (it most certainly is a good idea). It's about discussing what changes such a modification would entail.