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Is he a metalcrafter? He may need a magma/non-magma version of the workshop. Are any kinds of stone forbidden?

Magma workshops are NEVER used for moods. Even if you have magma on your map, you should always have a non-magma forge and glass furnace built somewhere in a corner of your fortress pretty much solely for possible moody dwarves (glass furnace can also be used for sand collection)

Quote from: Swivelguy2 on February 02, 2010, 03:56:54 pm

100% Goblin-proof, exploit-free wagon entrance:

G = drawbridge
D = depot

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                 G...............G.........G
To outside  <--  G...............G.........G  --> To fort
                 G...............G.........G
                                       DDD
                                       DDD

The rightmost drawbridge stays up most of the time, sealing dwarves in. The left 2 stay down, so the caravan sees a path to the depot and takes it. Once the caravan is unloading, raise the middle drawbridge, open the right one, and bring your stuff to trade.

The space between the left and middle drawbridges is where the traps go, be they of the stonefall/cage/weapon type or the pressure plate & magma/water type.

If the leftmost drawbridge stays down the whole time, why even have one?

The option to lift the bridge and trap some pincushions goblins in between two raised bridges?

Threetoe's story Snatcher appears to suggest they have a compulsion to eat what they kill.

Correct. The game's raws back that up. Elves will eat what they kill, but this merely means they're carnivores rather than cannibals. As sunshaker alluded to, elves are not cannibalistic by nature, but given certain circumstances it is possible for an elf to eat another elf - one of the elves must be killed in combat by the other elf, and the elf that is killed must be considered to belong to another race (an elf that was kidnapped by goblins, for instance)

Save the fish and use hippos or crocs instead

Quote from: Garth on February 02, 2010, 04:15:29 pm

I'm honestly wondering seeing as I've recently began taking an AP coding class in high school.

     I was in the last AP class that was tested in Turbo Pascal!

Ugh, Pascal's a horrible language....or am I mixing it up with Prolog again?

There's not an exceptionally "easy" way of doing it, but it's possible...if the cave you're looking at has had some important world-gen events occur in that cave (e.g. the death of a resident megabeast)

I've created a new Small world just to try this out and try to help walk you through it, OK?

So, I've gone into the Legends menu and looking through the Sites, I've decided that I'll try to find a cave called "The Heart of Seals"
I hit enter while that's selected and it gives me the cave's history. It's seen a lot of use - a hydra lived there from 1-16, an ettin from 16-22, a minotaur from 22-31, a second minotaur from 31-57 and a giant from 61-100 (world-gen end). What we're looking for is deaths of these beasts that occurred in this cave, as those are considered as important events in world gen. So, these are the records I'm wanting...
"In 16, the hydra Vedud Strappedspurted was struck down by the human Mapo Secretbunny in The Heart of Seals."
"In 22, the ettin ěddor Pondercastle was shot and killed by the human Acath Kegtakes in The Heart of Seals."
"In 31, the minotaur Issha Grizzlejewel was struck down by the dwarf Iden Relicfriends in The Heart of Seals."
"In 57, the minotaur Etog was struck down by the dwarf Shorast Bluntedlashes in The Heart of Seals."

In this case all of them died in the cave and not while they were out rampaging elsewhere...so, I go out of the Sites menu and go to the world history. 16 (the year that the hydra died) was the last year of The Age of Myth, so I head over there. One of the last important events of that age is "In 16, The Duel of the human Mapo Secretbunny and the hydra Vedud Strappedspurted occurred."
If I choose to view that entry (hit enter when it's the first yellow entry on the page), it'll show me info about that duel, including a minimap which points out the area where this occurred (see the X in the minimap)...
...you can see other things on the map which can help to point you in the right direction (in particular look for symbols for towns, especially ones that dwarves favour). In this case, I've picked up on the dark fortress to the south, and the dwarven fortress to the west. Flicking through the list of dwarf civilisations, I've found that The Vessel of Constructs owns both of them, and I found both fortresses rather quickly.

Moving my cursor along to the north-east, I now place it in the exact position where that red marker on the minimap was.
You'll notice in my last pic that the 3x3 area where the cave is can be seen in the north-east of the local area. If I didn't select "Make Caves Visible" when I created the world, I wouldn't know exactly where it was, but I'd know it's a 3x3 area somewhere within that 16x16 local area

I don't think they care if they have pig tail clothes while that hunter over there has full adamantine armor. (Example^)

True, but nobles have a strict hierarchy and if the dungeon master has a royal bedroom when all he needs is a no-label bedroom then the king's going to be upset because a "lesser" noble (the dungeon master) has a room with higher quality than that noble needs. The nobles don't care about the rooms owned by the 'common' dwarves with the possible exception of the ones in appointed positions of power (mayor, broker etc.). It's not something I take that much notice of, as there are several ways to make lots of happy thoughts and therefore negate the negative thought generated

If Toady One is smart, he's going to read through this thread before the release, and ensure that everyone is wrong.

Well, many people here are likely to mention things that could go wrong with the new features, which we know Toady's going to be testing to death anyway so it's unlikely there'll be anything going wrong with those except maybe in very extreme circumstances (which we'll probably uncover in the name of dwarven science but would be unlikely to discover through normal usage). What's more likely to go wrong is something that we've had for ages getting slightly cocked up...maybe all merchants/friendlies triggering traps again, or if you lock doors then you can't unlock them, or something silly like that