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Originally posted by ColonelTEE3:
<STRONG>The one major flaw to my base, which is now unfixable, is that a large portion of it is outside. Or atleast, a large portion of our traffic is outside. My city is seperated into two districts, with outlying buildings around it. To the west, above ground and built into the mountain side is my housing quarter and dining room, and to the east, below ground, is my workshops, Well, farms, and barracks, and to the north in the canyon side that overlooks us are various noble homes and a large magma facility, so everyone scurries from one place to another above ground. So when the goblins attack, i can't order anyone to go in doors, because that pretty much cuts off everyone, from everyone else   </STRONG>

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You might well be screwed regarding the stuff that you say is above ground, but for other things have you considered building shafts down (right down to the bottom level if necessary) and building connecting tunnels between them? One of my old designs had this sort of thing, where everything bar the trading depot was unreachable without going down a trap-filled staircase to the very bottom of the fortress and going back up another set of stairs. Was a slight pain in the arse, but it worked  

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Originally posted by Untelligent:
<STRONG>I'm kinda worried, as I haven't had any seiges, snatchers, or thieves invade my fortress yet, so I figure I'm due for one soon. Hell, I haven't even had a random wild animal attack, unless you count the time a Mud Man followed one of my haulers away from the cave river while all my Marksdwarves were asleep.</STRONG>

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If you've got some form of defence in place, I wouldn't worry too much about that   I'm now in summer of my fourth year and rhesus macaques have never even tried to enter my fortress - a load of them got slaughtered by humans coming to trade, but the thieving bastards have never actually bothered my dwarves. Dogs have chased away a couple of kobold thieves and every time I've been notified of a snatcher it was already caught in a cage trap  

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Originally posted by Kagus:
<STRONG>That brings up an interesting question...  Since adamantine requires an entirely different set of skills, and none of your dwarves have those skills, who gets punished?  Would it be the metalsmiths, or will the mayor just get upset because there's nobody to smack about?

Or will he find some random hauler to punish so he feels better?</STRONG>

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It's a metalsmith who gets it, yup.

My mayor's only set one mandate so far: he's banned the export of adamantine items   Considering I'm on a map without adamantium, I don't think there'll be a problem there  

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Originally posted by umiman:
<STRONG>However, if you have a great number of idle dwarves (someone said earlier that out of 30 dwarves, only 10 do work!?)... you are doing something very very wrong. But again, there's no need to stress over it if you're not the type to care about that in your playstyle. I mean, the job gets done eventually, right?</STRONG>

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That was me, and I don't consider myself to be doing something 'very very wrong'. I'd have a mason making doors and stuff, a carpenter making beds, barrels and bins, a brewer, a cook, a farmer or two, a craftsdwarf making stuff out of the ample stones littering my fort, a glassworker making raw glass and one or two jewellers cutting the raw glass and encrusting the craftsdwarf's stuff with the cut glass...and for the most part, that's the basic structure of my fort. There might be other dwarves who get used less often (e.g. miners, mechanic, butcher, tanner, leatherworker, weaver and clothier) but are used nonetheless, but after the first wave of immigrants I've pretty much got all the dwarves I need.

You actually use a legendary dyer? Doesn't matter that they're fast, the dye adds such little value to items that it's really not worth bothering with.
I rely a lot on my clothesmaker, though - she takes all the pig tail cloth and cave spider silk that the traders bring with them and she makes them into lots and lots of socks and shoes to sell back to the traders for more cloth and silk   After the first dwarven caravan I can pretty much survive entirely from the cloth the traders bring. Five years into one game I had a ridiculously large stockpile of shoes that just kept getting bigger and bigger - I'd sell two bins of shoes to buy enough cloth and silk to fill three or four bins on top of the meat, booze, leather and other stuff that took my fancy.

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Originally posted by Inquisitor Saturn:
<STRONG>Fortunately you can just set traffic to low in the stockpile</STRONG>

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Other way around - set it to "restricted" in the stockpile, and "low" around it  

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Originally posted by Garnan:
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In reply to atomicoctobot:
See my loafers,
Former gophers,
It was that or skin my chauffeurs.</STRONG>

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You missed a bit  

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Q: Why does everyone hate cats?

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Several reasons. The adoption is the main thing for me. If you're playing a long-term game and the game begins to lag a few years in, one way to quickly relieve some of the strain is to kill or imprison stray pets...but you can't do either of these with pets, and so it can be a real nuisance watching 100 cats/kittens running around your fortress, knowing that they're killing the speed of your game and short of killing their owner (who is probably a legendary worker and not someone you'd particularly want to sacrifice), there's bugger all you can do about the damn things.
Removing the [verminhunter] tag in the raws would solve this, of course, but then cats would lose their usefulness...so I keep a breeding couple, keep any pets brought by migrants, and let those few cats run around killing the pesky fire snakes and fluffy wamblers, and I just kill their babies the second I see a message saying that some kittens have been born.

...and that's why you should make ramps along the outside of your moat  
I had a similar sort of problem with dwarves randomly falling into a pond that was in my meeting area in one game, so I built ramps at the edges for them to get out again...but I eventually got so fed up with the "Dangerous Terrain" spam that I built a bridge over the pond.