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DF Dwarf Mode Discussion / Re: No alcohol poisoning, no fighting
« on: October 12, 2016, 03:31:08 am »
I've had deaths due to both drinking and fights in taverns, a version or two ago. For that reason, I no longer stock alcohol there.
I guess it does happen occasionally, but I'm sure it's a matter of personality/physical traits and luck.
Like, if you had a bartender with Great Focus, and he's all like "MUST SERVE ALCOHOL" all the time, dwarves would get dead-drunk more often (maybe).

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Life Advice / Re: Everyone I know is broken.
« on: October 12, 2016, 03:16:46 am »
"We are not a gang, we are a club!" /nostinkingbadges

Anyway, while you should do some strength/flexibility exercises (start slowly), you can get a lot of benefits just from walking - shoot to work up to at least a half hour and keep picking up the pace, ideally you want to raise your heart rate a bit.   Try to do it every day, or almost every day.  If it's hard to block out time for it, sneak it into your daily routine - leave 20 minutes earlier and instead of walking to school/work/store directly, walk around the block (neighborhood permitting of course).

This is great advice. Walking, specifically, is what humans are made for.
If you're walking long distances, make sure you buy the right kind of footwear and choose a route which is not hard on your joints. I learnt this the hard way. Thick soles and cushy roads (grass, or some kinds of tarmac) for example are a pleasure to walk on.
A stony path with shoes or thin soles will hurt everything from your ankles/knees to your hips and back. Be careful.
Still it's nice to walk in nature and enjoy the sights.
There's a hill I like to walk on, from which you can see London, all lit up at night. S' Beautiful.

Try mixing in yoga, breathing exercises and things like that.
Meditative practices also have a big effect on metabolism and health. It's worth looking into these things, as they can affect nerves, digestion, pain tolerance etc. through the power of concentration alone. Even if it doesn't make things easier, it gives you more concentration to deal with things around you, and makes you more stable internally too.

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DF General Discussion / Re: Future of the Fortress
« on: October 12, 2016, 03:15:52 am »
Misc item user is actually pretty harsh, even OP, when using artifacts, or at least it used to be. Not as super as when histfig migrants first became a thing, and came dressed like Mr. T, but still pretty strong.

Adding magic effects could be quite entertaining.  That brings up an interesting question though..



Since magic is going to be based on spheres of influence, it can possibly make deities a more active force in the world besides just random curses for vandalism and profanination. Are there any plans for special moods for priest caste dwarves in fortress mode? It would be an obvious mechanic to get sphere aligned artifacts, where type of artifact would not be tied to the dwarf's skill base, but wholly on the alignment axis system, so that eg, a god of music worshiper would produce divinely empowered instruments, if they are completely devoted to worship.  Currently, a dwarf selects an object class based on skill set, which determines which kind of workshop they claim.  A new kind of mood, say "holy work", for dwarves with severe skill rust, and high experience in temple disciplines (suggesting dedicated priest position) could produce magical artifacts, without training a craft skill to legendary, (similar to " fey" mood), and allow proper object alignment and type based on deity.  This could be made a little more interesting by weighing dwarf character traits, and some other features (like current emotional state) to influence and refine object type creation from the short list if sphere aligned objects and possible magical effects.  The need for extensive skill rust, and high temple activity would make this a very rare mood type, which limits abuse. Do you have any plans for such a thing, and if not, what do you have in mind there?

Great question! I was wondering about priestly/noble classes functions with regards to spheres myself!
Looks like you beat me to the punch!
What advantage (if any) will spheres confer to nobility or priestly castes for example? And how will that affect civilisations?
Will we see a battle between state and clergy for the minds and souls of people? High politics? Religious law? Crusades? Will nobility be affected towards charity or cruelty, and therefore loved or hated?

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i am honestly suprised one couldnt read the zealot troll hiding under this bridge.

all the points are real, the investment undeniable, but it drips of drippings
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In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion, often for their own amusement.
If anything, YOU are a troll. Don't fuck about m8.

Please either discuss thread topic and make relevant points, or kindly do not post.
No one forced you to come into this thread. I realise it is not to everyone's tastes, but I am no shill. I just LOVE open source.
Who ever heard of software being made for free, with no catch, cost etc.?
I, for one, think it is both extraordinary and wonderful that such things exist by the hard efforts of dedicated coders, programmers etc.

Even DF is a good example of such a venture: Yet you wouldn't call someone praising DF a troll, just because there are other games.
So what if massive multi-million $$$ companies make awesome games? I will always love my DF (read: Linux) with a burning passion.

Oh Linux! You give and you give, and you ask for nothing! What did a wretch like me do to deserve the gift of OPEN SOURCE?!

Please appreciate that not everyone with a different view to you is a troll. Grow up and act mature, or fuck off to any place not here.
I am sure you can manage that, since you managed to post here, I'm sure you can manage to leave as well.
These words aren't directed at you specifically, but rather to anyone who cares enough to pass judgement on others, but not contribute anything to topic/thread.
Fuck right off. Fuck you for judging me for FUCKING CARING. That's right, I CARE! Shame on me, I suppose. But I pity you because you don't know any better.


I LOVE Linux.
Did you know there are Linux variants for BLIND PEOPLE?! Do you know how much it costs? NOTHING.
Did you know Linux can be used to manage servers, usable in classrooms, as workstations and more? FOR FREE?(?!?!?!?!?!?!)
A person can basically start their own business, education program, graphics studio, or whatever they want FOR BASICALLY FUCKING FREE.
What is so troll-like about this thread that you would shit over the appreciation of the hard work of countless people who have never asked me for a penny but have given me a functional computer with all the programs I could ever ask for (and then some)?

Do you think it is a crime? Perhaps you perceive my actions to be fundraising, or propaganda?
They never asked for it. And I never asked to fall in love.... but I did.... So forgive me for my rudeness, but a person in love rarely sees straight, and a person will always cling to that which has delivered them.

So forgive me, get on topic, fuck off, and/or formulate a good comeback.

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Weren't we all Winblows users at some point? Aren't we all guilty of ignorance?

I regret ever posting here.

Sorry to burst your bubble hun, but that is how Windows is commonly referred to in non-Microsoft circles.
And it's true. We (nearly) all grew up on Windows, and we didn't know better LITERALLY.
We too clung blindly to our idols and mistaken beliefs, doubting the unknown. But it IS real. It is TRUE. Vah!

I wandered so aimless, life filled with sin Win
I wouldn't let my Dear Savior in
Then Jesus OS came like a stranger in the night
Praise the Lord I saw the light

I saw the light, I saw the light
No more darkness, no more night
Now I'm so happy, no sorrow in sight
Praise the Lord, I saw the light

Just like a blind man I wandered along
Worries and fears Registry errors I claimed for my own
Then like the blind man that God gave back his sight
Praise the Lord - I saw the light

I was a fool to wander and stray
Straight is the gate GNU and narrow the way
Now I have traded the wrong for the right
Praise the Lord, I saw the light

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijKKL5t8b04

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People, people!
Let us celebrate our differences!
Weren't we all Winblows users at some point? Aren't we all guilty of ignorance?
The great thing about Linux is that it forgives our previous sins: we die to the old way of bondage, and become reborn into freedom.
Let us not blame each other's operating systems, picking out faults. Let us commemorate everything that Windows has contributed to the development of technology, software, and computing systems.
Doesn't every OS have something to teach? Just look at all the distros of Linux!
We are strong because of our variety!

Every OS has some quirks and oddities, but that they exist, are functional and support our daily lives is something to be grateful for. Especially if you're a Linux user, but also if you use Windows, or yes, even Mac.
We are lucky and blessed to have such powerful tools at our fingertips, and it's our responsibility to use them wisely and to RESPECT THE DECISIONS OF OTHERS!
Even if they end up not being able to unlock the full potential of their computers because they didn't install Linux.

Who doesn't want out-of-the-box functionality? Who really cares what goes on in their system, as long as it runs?
It's a bit like cars: Some users want the most out of their machine and want to know everything going on under the hood.
Others just want to get from A-to-Z and don't care about fuel cost, efficiency, modifiability or pollution etc.

And of course, Linux users can have their cake and eat it too, since they can Dual-Boot into either Windows or Linux at a whim!
I still can't believe something so good exists! Actually, that's the point of this thread: It's criminal that Linux is unheard of.
I very much enjoy being a part of something so... pure... something so un-evil...

But we should take care, lest we become like what we hate
"Take care when you look into the abyss,
For the abyss also looks into you
And take care when you fight with monsters
Lest you become a monster"

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DF General Discussion / Re: Yard Sale
« on: October 10, 2016, 05:40:37 am »
It said it hit the leverpuller's heart, so if it was a spear? Death. Most likely death.

This gives me an idea for dealing with all those annoying goblins who keep traipsing over my bridges...

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Yeah, but that only decribes 4% of users, so it's a red herring. Only 4% of PCs worldwide are mac.

Mac is not just computers, but also mobile devices such as iPhone, iPad etc. which are all integrated with each other, and not much else.
Linux is also used on phones (android) for example, as Windows is too.

And the reason they're sticking with Mac is not because of sunk-costs: it would be cheaper for them to switch to Windows, but they don't. Macs are expensive to replace. So that should shoot a hole in the Sunk-Costs theory. When a user buys a new Mac, they need to replace all the software, which is very expensive. Getting a Windows PC instead and getting the equivalent PC software would be way cheaper than replacing a Mac.

Why would a user have to keep replacing the software? Once you buy software, you have access to its use, which is mostly the case.
The obstacle is not cost, but exclusivity: You own the software, but you must have the correct device to run it.
Users are locked in to a cycle of buying hardware because of the software they own, and vice versa.

Sunk costs DNE money.
Sunk costs = Time, Effort, Data, Files, Preferences, Learning/Understanding etc. etc.
That users cannot change to another system is an example of sunk costs- they cannot recover any of the above.
Once they start using an OS, they start "paying" the above, but cannot get it back if they later decide to change platforms.
If they buy software for that platform, they become more invested in that system, and cannot change later on.

The real issue is not that users have to pay money, but that users have to keep paying money to the same companies without alternatives

Also, you point out the real benefit to switching to Linux would be if everyone else does. But people don't make decisions as a hive-mind. They make decisions for themselves. And that decision-making process precludes Linux for almost all people who actually need to inter-operate with other people. Switching to an unpopular OS is not made into a rationally sound decision by pointing out that "if everyone else did to, it would be a great decision to switch". Well, no, part of the decision is estimating the likelihood of everyone else switching, vs the pros and cons of using a popular OS vs an incompatible unpopular one that's "better". People individually / rationally realize that the costs of switching are going to massively outweigh the benefits, therefore you never get the ground swell of people switching.

Here's a thought experiment. Qwerty vs Dvorak keyboards. Dvorak keyboards are objectively better than Qwerty keyboards, to an extent that makes switching OS look like child's play. Why don't you start typing with Dvorak? After all, nobody but you cares what keyboard layout you use, whereas having an OS used by more than 2% of the population makes you objectively more compatible.

No one needs to "switch" to Linux because it is inter-operable. It can be installed alongside Windows, for example, and can access the hard drive and files on the Windows partition.
In any case, the success of Linux has mostly been driven by geeks with a love for what they do.
Their success is dependent on their skill, technique etc, and if people used/supported it, that would be better, but not necessary.
Whether most people use Linux or not doesn't seem to impact the Open Source movement as much as if people stopped using Windows/Mac, for example.
I guess you could say, Linux doesn't need you, you need Linux!

As for the Dvorak example, that's a very good point. You can easily continue this line of thought:
If you want people to use Dvorak, we should teach children to do so.
In a few generations, it would be the norm!
So if we want to change the norm of society in the future, we have to make some changes NOW! Hence this thread :p

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Well if you look at MacOS, they have a 4% market share. The lock-in nature of things has added to that.
https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0

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Haven't they ever heard of the terms SUNK COSTS or VICIOUS CYCLE?
I also think this is off-base. Linux would need more work to get up and running that to keep using Windows. That's the literal opposite of sunk costs.

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Instead of 3 different standards/styles, there would be 1 main one, with many splinters and off-shoots.
But this is pretty much what we have now. 90% of the install base is Windows, with <5% of anything else.

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No more paying license fees to Windows or Macintosh!
Microsoft doesn't charge ongoing licensing fees, now. Unless you use a cloud service like Office 365, and in that case you're paying for the right to host material and have cloud backup working. And you can bet that providers such as Adobe will still charge excessive licensing fees. The cost to get an OS is a pittance compared to the cost to get legal licenses for any sort of creative third-party software. And no, Blender isn't going to replace 3D Studio and Maya.

Sunk Costs/Vicious Cycle, was referring to consumers, not producers.
A person buys mac products (example) but can't quit because all their programs are on that platform and they already spent time learning how to use it.
Result? They keep buying Mac products, buying Mac software and learning Mac (not anything wrong with that).

Yes, the market is mostly geared towards Windows. But Windows is not in our power, as consumers, to change or modify etc. and we are stuck building our technological future on someone else's product instead of our own! If they decide to change it, there's not much we can do!

Also, Microsoft make a tonne of money from just selling the OS. 95% of the market is a lot of individuals. When the next upgrade rolls around, they all pay again too! Windows is more invested in making money through more releases, not better releases.

Also, it's not just consumers who pay license fees!
Anyone who wants to be certified as an expert (technician, producer, developer etc.) also has to pay their dues to Microsoft!
It's not just end-users who give money to Microsoft!

Windows and Mac have SERVICE INDUSTRIES and the money goes back towards the companies!
They profit from our malfunction!

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honestly no, and honestly i cannot see any forseeable time in the future where i would ever need to do that


but hey if it works for you thats alguds dude


im honestly just here because its funny

People who are honest don't need to say "honestly" so much, DigitalDemon. Unless you REALLY REALLY needed me to know how sincere you are being. Which I'm sure is "very". "Very sincere". How much? "very". "Very sincere".

Hey, that's cool if you don't want to install Linux, but if anyone was wondering about installing Linux, dual-booting with another OS is really common and effective. It's as much for people perusing the thread and people interested but deterred from installing Linux.
You can install Linux and keep your old software too! It's a sweet deal. Boot whichever OS you like. It's your choice, but Linux users have more of them.

People buy Mac/Apple, and their reward is to be locked into a system of software and products which are vastly over-inflated in price.
Windows is the same, it just has a longer/more-established history.

Not quite. The first version of Windows was in November of 1985. The first Apple Mac was in January of 1984. If we go back to the text-based computer era, Apple was still first. Apple released their first PC  in July 1976 vs Microsoft's first MS-DOS version in 1981.

It seems you are quite right. Perhaps I should have said "more well known" (which also could be phrased as "well-established")

Well, not really here either. Any OS requires that you have compatible software, even Linux funnily enough, which is the #1 reason people don't get Linux: their favorite things aren't compatible. And hardware compatiblity, that's not even the fault of the OS maker, and is also a thing you just have to live with regardless of OS, even on Linux. Your other claim is that it has to be "from the same company" but I'm happily sitting here using tons of third-party software on Windows which doesn't need to be certified by Microsoft. Sure, you can argue a pile of reasons against Windows, but being forced to use Microsoft everything isn't one of them, because it's a straw-man argument.

I was more referring to Apple/Mac, since they are the main offenders of "use our product ecosystem"
Windows also has a problem like this. Ever seen a variant of Windows that runs better, more efficient, less bloat or has custom content? It's illegal.
Your only options are: Upgrade (to Windows), Downgrade (to Windows), Keep (Windows).... and all by Microsoft, and none other.
If you want to use Windows programs you can only use the preset Windows versions. That's all the Windows models produced by Microsoft, with no alternatives or options to modify them.
Don't like Windows 8/10? Tough luck, you're stuck with whatever they feed you.
Once a person starts to use Windows applications, there aren't really any alternatives (except for WINE... on Linux)

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Hi buddy, I don't mean to take the wind out of your sails, but the right forum for this thread is probably "DF General Discussion", as this forum is more for gameplay aspects of fort mode.
Maybe if you ask a moderator nicely, they'll move your thread for you.

Also, in your story, you started off saying "Savesh" (I'm pretty sure it's "Sarvesh" like you wrote in the middle...) and ended up saying "Sharvek" at the end...? How does one even do that by accident? Still, funny story though.

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DF Dwarf Mode Discussion / Re: I just can't get excited for DF anymore.
« on: October 10, 2016, 03:52:41 am »
I didn't realize I was offending people by signing my posts, sorry about that.
I guess it's because I'm older than the internet.
 
  Sincerely,
   Goatmaan

Whenever I read it, I always sing it: "Goatma~an"!
Or is it pronounced with a long "A" like "Goatmahn"???

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Alas, as much as I'd love to switch to Linux, I'm just plain hooked on DirectX. I've got too many games without a good OGL or Vulkan component, which is the main thing I use my computer for.
1. Make a partition on HDD
2. Install Linux w/option for Dual-Boot (you will see a screen everytime you turn your computer on, asking which OS you want to use- check before installing though)

@SirQuiamus
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@DigitalDemon
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What is the purpose of bringing down Windows/Mac?
The same as killing parasites, vermin, pests, vampires:
Richter Belmont = Open Source
Dracula = Windows/Mac

    Open Source: Die, monster! You don't belong in this world!
    Windows/Mac: It was not by my hand that I'm the most popular OS. I was installed here by humans who wish to pay me tribute.
    Open Source: Tribute?! You steal men's currency and make them your fanboys!
    Windows/Mac: Perhaps the same could be said of all software.
    Open Source: Your words are as empty as your license agreements! Mankind ill needs an software platform such as you!
    Windows/Mac: What is a man? (flings his wine glass aside) A miserable little pile of money! But enough talk! Have at you!
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TO ALL THE NAYSAYERS:
Can your precious OS do.... THIS?!
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DF General Discussion / Re: DFSP (Dwarf Fortress Song Parodies)
« on: October 09, 2016, 11:21:52 am »
Lol, that's genius!

"Wherever I lay my pick, that's my home"


Rihanna - "Shut up and drive" >>> Urist - "Shut up and mine"
Rihanna - "Umbrella"  >>> Urist - "Pick"

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So, I have been playing this game almost non-stop for three months now, and I have gone through ALOT of fortressess. And, I have also had alot of facepalm moments...

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Facepalm1: Hmmm, I wonder what wet stone is? Result: GURGLEGURGLEGURGLE!!
Urist dug the wet stone.
The wet stone dripped.
The fortress became flooded.
And Urist drowned in it.

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Facepalm2: Hmmm, I wonder what hot stone is? Result: IT BUUUUURNS!!
Urist dug the hot stone.
The hot stone gave way
Digging was a bad idea
Urist had a (really) bad day

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Facepalm3: Ooooh, Adamantine. MINE IT RIGHT AWAY! Result: HELL
Urist dug the adamantine
It was hollow inside
Demons gushed forth
And flayed poor Urist's hide
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Facepalm4: Giant attack? Just lock the doors. Result: He broke the door down...
Urist locked the door
To stay the Giant attack
But the Giant broke it down
Now poor Urist is flat
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Facepalm5: Giant attack? Just send the millitia. Result: Who misplaced the armour?
Urist led the charge
of the militia to war
But they forgot their armour
Now poor Urist is no more

lol

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