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Clever Girl

Arthur should also 'happen upon' the late count's will, declaring Arthur to be Count.

If we send them away, we seem noncommittal. Our plan is to attack in the Spring, and that is what we have to do. The more people on our side, the better. My only worry is that perhaps this group is playing both sides, as it were. I'd rather not have double agents in our midst. Keep them under close scrutiny, but agree. Also, send letters to our allies (the Duke and the Knights). Once we hear back from them, unless any have any objections, we strike. Call Arthur back as well, and hope that he's been learning to fight over the Winter. He shouldn't be on the front lines, but he should certainly make an appearance on the battlefield. Oh, and see about getting the Rat to rally the masses once we reach the city. When we get there, I want to see riots already going on.

Sounds good to me.  Except I was under the impression that we weren't going to attack.

We can't attack because Owen has the bigger army, and we would just look like rebels. The "Count" would call up the levy, and nobody would have any excuse to refuse. In fact, I would disagree with your thoughts on timing as well. If we wait for the Spring, then Owen, who is unprepared because of his newness, just had to rally a foreign people during the winter, and probably suffered heavy losses, and his reputation has been destroyed due to our rumors. Time is on our side, not his, as long as we hit him before the people lose interest in the bastard. If we time it right (in the spring), then that is when we'll have the greatest advantage (as well as the support of the duke and the knights.)

I think what you're assuming is that 1)He's a terrible person who will be a complete bitch to his subjects, which is based solely on the fact that he, and some of the noble class, doesn't like us rising up to the nobility from being a simple farmer; 2)That the little people will really care who's in charge(unless he's really nice or really mean, then they'll care a lot); and 3)How would he suffer heavy losses?

But if he shapes up to all of those and all the other knights and barons hate him, hell yeah, let's go for it.  After we make sure we have Arthur on a good footing.

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Right, well, moving on from that.
I say we keep the fact that we have a contestant to Owens claim a secret, and we send out feelers in order to ascertain whom we can expect to back us if we do attempt to install him as the count.  Also, ask the steward about how one goes about contesting a claim such as Owens.  Let's stay away from military action for the time being, as we don't want to be considered rebellious, which would get a much larger army bearing down on us.

Sounds like a douchebag.