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Im just wondering that how can they fly without feathers...

It's probably related to the way they move whithout muscles or live while dead.

To move water over numerous z-level, the best would definitely be something involving lots of chains/rope and lots of buckets, and a couple gears as well. Say, two buckets per level, one going up and one going down, 2x1 building and as tall as you need it to be. Both bottom tiles need to be underwater so as to fill up the buckets. Buckets would empty themselves on one of the two highest tiles, and water would be poured in front of this tile (one or two tiles away so as to prevent water to falling down again).

Or we could make it 3x1 and water would fall on the middle tile. This way we could set up a pipe with a funnel underneath to collect water.

While we're talking about it, we could add funnels, to collect (more?) rain or steam or whatever use we can find. Possibly crushing goblins into minced meat.

Having a string filter every where would be good, as well as being able to use it to select different strings, such as "The Towels of Disappearing" and "dragon" instead of "The towels of disappearing dragon".

Also, it's a pain when a civ attacks a group from a little site, or one group from a civ attacks a group from another. Since there's a group per site, it quickly becomes impossible to understand. Just knowing which race is each group would help creatly, or from which civ they're from. In fact, it'll probably be better if the summed up version only tells the civ name and in the details you'd know the name of the group.

Also, every change on the map (scrolling, ending a designation -mining, chopping down trees, removing designation - even if there was no designation change) delete the phantoms. Except for notes. Placing a note doesn't remove them.

EDIT : Designating a stockpile or a zone on black tiles doesn't remove cursors neither, nor the green crosses, if it's started on black tile and ended on a black tile.

More, a zone which designation was black tile to black tile is created properly (walls are included but i assume it's normal) while a stockpile isn't created at all, even if it should.
Every other designation works properly and clears the screen.

I used "professional" referring to what they have to do towards the fortress, opposed to their personal interests, but you got the idea anyway.

I'm leaning toward not suppressing the information by using some extra objects (could use the same ones as the interface would I guess, though there are all sorts of ways to think about it).

Can't you just create a new "stack" container that would be created by stacking two objects of the same types (bolts, coins, ...) and destroyed when it contains only one object? It would otherwise act the same way as any other container, meaning the different bolts/coins would still exist on their own and thus keep their informations.
We could examine a stack and then examine each object as if they were in a barrel, but most of the time we would just see "gold coins stack(26)".
Stacks would be created by a "stacking" job or automatically when two same-kind objects are in the same container (drop a coin in your bag when there's already another one and a stack is created ; put a bolt in your quiver when there's another creates a stack).
Otherwise, a stack wouldn't have any weight or information by itself : only the common weight of what it contains, and would display only informations that are shared by all of what it contains. This way there could be a <<*steel bolts stack (37)*>> and then if you put in the quiver a
<<steel bolt>> the stack would become a <<steel bolts stack (38)>>. Their quality isn't displayed anymore, but when a bolt is taken out the quiver when you crook the crossbow, the quality of the bolt is still taken into account.

Sorry to have brought it back, but I feared I would forget it. I thought it could be useful. I'm gonna edit and give my two cents about fire in a few minutes.

EDIT : I think torches should be made by groups. A torch requiring one wood seems too much for me, remember a whole tree is cut down for 1 wood. It should be enough for 20 or even 30 torches.

Anyway torches and campfires would have two states (lit and unlit). I honestly don't know what to think of needing or not needing something to lit them. When water reaches 1/7 at a campfire tile, it'd go out. Same for mural torches with 4/7 (if dwarves start swimming, then it means water is likely to be higher than a dwarf is tall, and torches are usually placed the same height as the head).

A campfire placed outside when raining would have more chances to go out. It'd need someone to look after it so it stays lit. Perhaps torches could also turn out when under the rain.

Also, perhaps we should have (in adventurer mode) an option to stick 2 objects next to each other, in the complex [ I ]nteraction menu. The hotter one would slowly (or not) heat the colder one until the ladder reaches the temperature of the first.

This way we could lit our mittens with our torch then throw it on that nasty GCS.

I think, among the council, the highest-ranked noble should have the final word. Yet there would be his personnal opinion, like every other member of the council, and his professional opinion, depending of the opinion of every other member.

Friends speaking and voicing their opinion would change your personnal opinion easier than they change the professional one, just because they are friends. Then the quality of their speech would change both, but the professional one in an easier way.
Same goes for grudge : having another noble Urist MacPhilosopher doesn't like defend a dwarf would make Urist's personal opinion closer to "Immediate death". But if said dwarf is well defended, the professional opinion could still be "Short term jail".

Members of the council would have their personality biased towards following one or the other opinion : "Cog McBaron has a strong sense of duty", so she'll stick out to her professional opinion more than her personal one.

Their final decision would be an average of the two opinions with coefficients depending upon personnal interests and sense of duty.
Then, if the final verdict is contrary to their personal opinion they'd receive an unhappy thought, whose strength would be lessened if their professional opinion is respected. "Urist McBaroness was frustrated because of the verdict recently."

Seeing other nobles contradict their ideas would tend to generate grudges between nobles, stronger grudges if they follow their personal opinion (because of unfairness).

The highest-ranked noble could then have to declare a verdict he doesn't like but has to. If he keeps on following his personal interests, other nobles would slowly grow angry at him, which would lead to !!fun!! when assassins are in.

This enables corrupted and uncorruptible nobles, real council debate, egoist final sentence and gives birth to a reason for murders.

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