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General Discussion / Re: Ameripol\{RK, mainiac}
« on: August 14, 2016, 07:50:28 am »
No, it's being perfectly okay with a cop shooting somebody who they judge to be a danger to others. As these people were.
S'pretty different from what you said before, that. But a'ight. I'm more of the okay with cops shooting somebody someone else* thinks is a danger to others type, myself, but it's more reasonable than just a blanket "criminals".

*An independent third party of some sort, probably. I hear it can do some pretty amazing things for incidents of police violence and that whole shitting on due process thing.

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General Discussion / Re: Ameripol\{RK, mainiac}
« on: August 14, 2016, 07:33:23 am »
Sure, is just being perfectly okay with it when the person being killed has broken a law.

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General Discussion / Re: Ameripol\{RK, mainiac}
« on: August 14, 2016, 07:28:03 am »
Just the idea that a normal law-abiding citizen like Frumple is willing to consider the killing af a cop by a criminal as 'fair game' horrifies me.
There's something very wrong there at a very deep societal level.
Because if you say 'that's kindof what they signed up for', you're saying it's fair game.
Saying the risk of it is part of the job, at least. If a cop isn't going into the job expecting a greater degree of risk what they hell are they doing on the streets, and why the hell are we paying them and giving them guns and drastically expanded legal powers?

I, personally, don't intend to shed a tear over dead criminals, or listen to a domestic terrorist group. But eh, you do whatever you want.
Man, I hear ya'. Death to all speeders, 55 mph living limit. Time to round up and execute everyone that ever recorded a show off TV, fuckers deserve nothing but bullets. Graves for shoplifters, man, graves for shoplifters. Due process can get buggered, whoever needed that shitty fifth amendment anyway. Damn thing's never done anything for anyone.

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General Discussion / Re: Ameripol\{RK, mainiac}
« on: August 14, 2016, 07:02:59 am »
Maybe some more dead cops, too, but endangering their life for that whole legal process thing is kinda' literally what they signed up for.
Now that I would call a shitty attitude. But then again I come from a country with much less privatly owned guns.  Always thought that motivation to join the police would come from a desire to help people, not a desire to die for your country. There's the army for that.

(Note that over here, cops dying in the line of duty is a thing that almost never happens.)
Their job in this country is to enforce the law. Literally that, helping people was deemed not to be particularly important by the courts some decades ago. If they ain't going to be legally accountable for saving peoples' lives they damn sure better be upholding the legal system, and that means court time and due process, not dead on the street.

And if that means a greater risk of injury or death, well... that is pretty much precisely why (in part, if nothing else) we give them so many goddamn privileges and legal powers. That's the cost. You get greater control over folks' lives, greater largess in terms of violence, great frothing heaps of societal appreciation (which is still happening, mind, even with all the blowback they've been getting the last handful of years), so on and so forth, and in exchange you accept greater risk to your life, among a number of other things.

... though as usual it's worth noting that cops don't actually have much of a fatality rate in the US. They're in the top twenty, but not the top ten, and so far as I can recall most of their deaths aren't due to getting shot. S'usually traffic related, iirc.

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General Discussion / Re: Ameripol\{RK, mainiac}
« on: August 14, 2016, 06:55:45 am »
Oh, it's still illegal. Still a criminal offence, generally, and by and large the police have been given a legal mandate to demand a citizen to disarm, if not an entirely conditionless mandate. It's just not a capital (i.e. potential death sentence) one.

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General Discussion / Re: Ameripol\{RK, mainiac}
« on: August 14, 2016, 06:49:48 am »
Yeaaahhh... amazingly enough, having a gun on you, even a stolen one, even after a cop's told you to drop it, isn't actually a capital offense in the US, particularly not one that bypasses that whole due process and appeals and whatnot thing and goes straight to the execution. If you start shooting or brandishing, maybe, but we currently have no indication of that, so far as I can tell.

Cop's job isn't extrajudicial killing. The job can involve it, and it's an important tool, but generally speaking discouraging that is a good idea. Less riots, less dead people, more justice and law and all that tomfoolery. Good stuff, mostly. Maybe some more dead cops, too, but endangering their life for that whole legal process thing is kinda' literally what they signed up for.

... all that said, it looks like some of the rioting may be calming down (let's hope neither the police nor others antagonize back into full swing), which is generally a good thing. Anyone know how unsurprising this all is? Haven't exactly been paying attention to the state of police behavior in a city in wisconsin... even if it is milwaukee.

And nah, not every shooting. But it's happened enough (among other things, like the person shot being armed but not actually drawing or attempting to) just trusting it was a good shoot when the police say the person was armed is... probably not the best of ideas.

E: And to the edit, the shitty attitude is immediately defaulting to the cops being right to kill this guy, even without any sort of evidence besides "police said was armed and at-least-previously criminal". That is, in part, exactly the attitude that's led to BLM, or at least some similar, to frankly kinda' be needed.

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Other Games / Re: SALES Thread
« on: August 13, 2016, 09:29:02 pm »
We've got a thread for it that got a bump sometime fairly recent-ish. From what I recall, general consensus was that it's finally (as in, in the last year or two) been polished to the point it's a pretty worthy successor, and probably the best implementation of the original DK style among the recent batch, both in terms of implementation and stability/general technical competence. Haven't actually played it, though, m'self, just watched some LPs. Looked pretty solid, at the least.

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Tyrian is love ♥ One of the ur-shmups, really, right in there with gradius and whatnot. Also one of the only ones I've played more than a couple of levels before going and doing something else >_>

... that defense ship, though. Is that the T-shaped one with the claw-like bits you can shoot off? *checks*

Ah, no, it's the cymbal one :3

And cheers, nax. Remember: Helmet and jacket. You like your skin, and want it to stay on.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: August 13, 2016, 08:13:18 pm »
Float an email to a nearby embassy and try for asylum/refugee status? If you don't have access to functioning child services it could be an option. Long shot, but it wouldn't hurt to try if you can make the contact without observation. Alternately see if there's any abuse support groups you can contact -- there may be possibilities you're not aware of.

And for what it's worth, anger is definitely an appropriate emotion. Maybe not a safe one, but your parents frankly deserve prison or the morgue.

Application wise... try. Just try. Know it's basically terrifying as hell, but even if you fuck up somewhere it can still get through. I screwed up on some myself, but still got in -- the non-secret is that they want either your money, the funding they'll get for having you, and/or the possibility of an appreciative alumni. There's a lot of incentives for a university to enroll someone that's applying. If you've got a particular one in mind you might even consider getting in contact with their financial aid/administration and let them know about the situation you're in, if you can on the down low. It's far from impossible that you qualify for some sort of scholarship or grant specifically intended to get students out of abusive homes. There's definitely stuff of that nature out there.

You don't deserve what you're going through, c. Y'really don't, and your parents are bloody scum of about the worst sort. Wish I could actually help, but other than probably being able to get you cheap/free housing for a while if you ended up in north florida, not much c'n offer besides probably unhelpful advice and sympathy :-\

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Other Games / Re: Majesty
« on: August 13, 2016, 07:04:05 pm »
It holds up pretty decently to the test of time, imo. Played most of the way through it and the expansion something like last year, or thereabouts. Sequel's pretty a'ight, too.

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Other Games / Re: The Warhammer 40K Games Place (AKA, GW is a harlot.)
« on: August 13, 2016, 06:22:29 pm »
Sorry, I'm pretty leery of when popular IPs just start getting paired with other game types outside of what the IP is really about. Like, 40k jewel games, 40k dance games, 40k flappy birds. The chess game isn't just straight chess, yeah, that's hyperbole from me. But it makes me feel like GWS isn't really taking their own IP seriously to the point where they'll say no to something.
40k dance game could be pretty great, actually. Harlequin/slanneshi simulator 20XX. There'd be a lot of blood, and it might not manage to end up with a realistically marketable ESRB rating, but still. I could see it working.

Could also totally see a flappy birds. You'd be a grot missile, or maybe just a grot piloted one. You could do things with that. Maybe just a mini-game or somethin', but it could be interesting.

Jewel game I have more trouble with. Best thought is maybe entering the role of an Administarium cogitator, with the jewels being paperwork. Bonus points for a chaos mode where you score points for mismatching "gems". After a game, you get to see the results of your labors -- how many planets were destroyed, how many billions died in fire, etc. That's for both modes, mind. The untainted one would just be aiming to destroy the least instead of the most :V

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: August 13, 2016, 05:01:33 pm »
Maybe a posture change? Google seems to think it's the only (non-bupkis) way to gain height after 25 or so.

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General Discussion / Re: Ameripol\{RK, mainiac}
« on: August 13, 2016, 07:56:28 am »
Can is a rough qualifier when it comes to medical conditions, heh. There's apparently been no fatalities associated with the disease to date, though, no. The immediate effect is basically just a mild fever -- part of the reason it's spreading as well as it is, is because you can easily move around and do stuff while suffering from it. Not something you really need a doctor's visit to recover from, generally. If it wasn't for the birth defect thing (which I'm like half sure is still less of an issue than with, say, alcohol), the thing would probably be a more or less non-issue.

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General Discussion / Re: Ameripol\{RK, mainiac}
« on: August 13, 2016, 07:07:39 am »
... it's about two thousand in the last week, not over ten. It's been 10.6k since december. Ruddy clickbait posts :-\

Still bit concerning, but yeah. Does suggest the infection rate's increasing, but on the other hand we're basically in the peak mosquito months, and PR's one of the few places in the country about as well suited to mosquito breeding as florida. If it maintains that rate in, say, december, or manages it on the actual continent, then you'll see me somewhat worried.

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General Discussion / Re: Ameripol\{RK, mainiac}
« on: August 12, 2016, 10:54:23 pm »
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IT KEEPS CHANGING AAAAAHHHHHH

... more seriously, and to a response that has now been edited out, I'm fairly sure abusing "trust me, I'm a doctor" is pretty much carson's entire political strategy. Not surprising he'd be using it some more.

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