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General Discussion / Re: Ameripol\{RK, mainiac}
« on: July 26, 2016, 05:19:00 pm »
It was in florida, mainiac. No one remembers that. Especially the people involved.
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Your reasoning is funny. We're just to trust that "Well, some people might be watching, maybe even people that aren't supposed to." and "It's too much effort." to prevent election fraud. And for some reason those facts mean that extra people watching specifically for fraud would be worse for some reason.... how the hell did you come to any of those conclusions from what I typed?
How will you detect rigging if you don't have observers?Normally? It's not like these things are particularly closed door, most of the time. They're generally, y'know. Televised live, from multiple angles and often illicitly, too, these days. Actual ground vote stuff is generally handled by the local election whatsit folks, too, rather than specifically chosen members of the party.
And that's a problem in my eyes. It's okay to rig the elections as hard as you want as long as the final decsion between two candidates forced down our throats is fair.Well, it'd be a problem if the elections were actually being rigged, sure. Most of the accusations I've seen of that the last couple of cycles have shown every sign of being pretty much entirely bullshit. Election doesn't exactly have to be rigged for someone to lose, oddly enough.
Where are the election monitors?... do the parties even have those for their primaries? Any of them, really, not just the big two. Certainly can't recall hearing of any for the last... well, as long as I've been alive and aware. Occasionally ones during actual votes or at particular polling areas or something, but not at conventions or whathaveyou. It'd be a bit weird, anyway... these things are an internal organizational issue, not some aspect of the actual government.
You know, maybe Sanders made the right decision by not conceding the primary until the very end. He managed to push forward nearly all of his platform stuff, including stuff that was outright declared by some people as "delusional", like 15$ minimum wage, alongside with breaking up big banks and free public university education.... just about every appearance is that he lost a lot of political influence by not quitting earlier, as well as not handling things during the primary a (fair) bit more adroitly. Those things you mentioned as pushing forward were things clinton was already intending to push towards, just not quite as rapidly (because, y'know, then it'd be easier to actually get some shit done in a single term) on some fronts. 13-and-a-bit minimum wage, a massive expansion of free uni education for everyone below a certain (pretty damn high) income, etc., etc., etc. Was all shit that was already on the table. In exchange for "concessions" that were basically already happening, he's hurt the chances of a liberal president (and by extension SCOTUS position), lost pretty much any chance of influencing any major cabinet etc. positions, and mostly pissed off many of the people that's basically been trying to do the same goddamn thing he was.
It sure seems that he didn't lose any political influence by not quitting early. In fact, he may have had much more influence than he would have had otherwise. This is certainly a historical decision on his part, one that may be followed by many more candidates in the future.
... policy wise she kinda' is, though, particularly by US standards. Certainly roughly as much as bernie is, or at worst barely trailing. Could say that's not actually saying that much, considering bernie's actual positions, but *shrugs*Yeah sorry, I meant "extreme". I was using the obscure Liberal Crime Squad term to be silly, which was misleading.Meanwhile HRC's main flaw is that she isn't an elite liberal, just a liberal.
Uh, she IS an elite liberal, given her standing and seniority (and by that, I don't mean age), but it's certainly not her main flaw.
I'm sure that Hillary would be largely unaffected by this, but that seems like it might kill Sanders. Maybe wait until 2020, he'll probably be dead by then.Berlary Sandton/Kane 2020!
I'm not exactly sure how we'd do proportional representation for presidential candidates, but I would support surgically removing 43.1% of Hillary Clinton's body and grafting the equivalent amount of Bernie Sanders onto her.Maybe time share? They split the weeks or somethin', or just the overall term.