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No, no. High Labour. Their new symbol would be a five rayed sunrise over the UK flag.

Yeah, we don't have a magic wand or scanning device or something to wave over people and rewrite their personalities and whatnot instantly. Usually takes some time. Any case, as palsch noted, it's fairly irrelevant to the UK discussion.

Anyway... folks that were paying more attention to the lead up. Any of you lot know of/would be able to give a summary of what the leave campaign promised as part of its go at things? Stuff like that NHS money, et al. Watching the shake out of this stuff and the leave politicians' reactions is making me wonder just how much of their campaign they've backpeddled on in the last few days, and it'd be nice to have a clearer picture of what it all was. Apparently they've backed on the NHS funding, they've backed on there being much change to immigration, some have backed on there being much change regarding general regulation, and I've just now noticed they're apparently backing on the assurances vis a vis the fishery management, too. It's getting kinda' farcical, really...

Give it time.

In WTF news, dream brain just had one the characters involved explain meteorological phenomena by way of comparison to their breasts. The storm front in general was the lacy bra, the area people would be interested in leaving was the left breast, the place they would end up the right, and the problems involved illustrated by mashing them together and explaining the conditions involved.

Why, dream brain. Why. It was even properly informative and an effective means of illustration. Well done. But why. Why.

You invade, you withdraw when you've broken the warlord. Like shattered broken. You go fast and hard and then you pull out. You don't stick around like an unwanted guest and outstay your welcome.

Maaaate. That is basically what caused the mess you're talking about to begin with. Turns out when you leave a power vacuum and however much dead people and destroyed infrastructure, and then mostly just fuck off, pretty much bloody anything can fill the hole and it's really likely to not be particularly fond of you, nor much in the way of decent.

Basically. What you're suggesting, broadly speaking, not only does not work to prevent or stop what you're suggesting to use it for, it actually tends to the exacerbate or outright cause such situations.

So, uh. Yeah. Let's not suggest making the same goddamn mistake for the Nth time, maybe.

... not that any of this discussion really has bugger all to deal with the current UK troubles, but eh.

I think there's like no FoZ there at all now. Currently it is all about self-inserts and Worm. Like, holy shit do they have a LOT of self-insert fanfiction over here now. It's positively ridiculous.

Nah, there's a few ZnT fics still being updated on SB. Think there's a couple other ones on SV, too. They've definitely cut way back, though.

And yeah, lots of SIs. Considering it mostly seems due to TA/Supcom/PA fics, I can accept that :V

Or it's a point of order? The EU wants to avoid Britain being in limbo as much as significantly more than Britain does.

There we go :V

It probably shouldn't be understated, some kind of half state was basically exactly what the leave campaign's politicians actually wanted, more than they wanted an actual leave vote. EU side of things is... pretty reasonable in saying fuck that, imo. UK gets screwed by it, of course, but well. As the saying goes, play stupid games, get stupid prizes, et al. You wrap your political maneuvererings around something that can drive your country and a couple dozen others into the dirt and with the intent for it not to happen, when it does happen, you get what you got.

70% turn is the highest voter turnout in years. Those who didn't even vote have no right to complain against a result they dislike.

The hell you say. I get to complain all I damn well please, thank you very much -- those ruddy results I dislike I didn't vote for has a bloody good chance of kicking off the recession that was waiting in the wings in my country. Complaining rights go to everyone in the UK that could or couldn't vote, everyone in the UK that can still talk, and everyone everywhere with even the most facile existence of frees speech laws, too.

Can say their complaints matter less, but they've got all the right to them in the world.

Oh wow. The UK got hit with the first ever two notch credit downgrade that S&P has handed to a sovereign nation. I guess they didn't hesitate much to kick that AAA rating in the metaphorical reproductive organs.

Well, if it wasn't historic before, it definitely is now.

Huh. Woke up, checked the pound/usd exchange rate (this is becoming something of a hobby >_>). Turns out it's now managed to get below the immediate post results drop. I... guess the asian markets really are quite unhappy with them? Either that or other markets are reacting to yesterday's reaction or somethin'. Still.

Gonna' be interesting to see what it looks like friday...