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General Discussion / Re: 2016 Orlando Shooting Discussion Thread
« on: June 14, 2016, 01:06:49 am »
It kinda' can't, so far as I'm aware. Not consistently, anyway, and not without a great frothing pile of false positives. More than that, functionally no one wants to pay for psych testing multiple hundreds of millions of people. Or even mere millions of particularly high risk individuals.

Though murderers generally aren't allowed to run free. Potential ones are, but things being what they are, locking up or tracking everyone that could end up murdering someone is...  not something that's logistically feasible. Crimes of passion are a thing, and comprise a fairly substantial portion of the states' homicide count. Much of the human species fits under that category.

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General Discussion / Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« on: June 13, 2016, 11:41:19 pm »
GL is definitely the... let's say it pushes less boundaries? I guess would be the best way of putting it. As bloody weird as it is to say it in reference to Gurran Lagan, it's probably the more restrained of the two. So I might suggest watching that one first. It also came first, so... there's that. though if you're looking for really early trigger, you might consider watching Dead Leaves. I'm... fairly sure it was probably the least restrained of any of trigger's works I'm aware of. there's a scene where one of the characters gives birth and the child comes out guns blazing, iirc. There is no metaphor involved in that description.

That said, story qua story et al, KlK is almost certainly the better show of it and GL. GL is great fun, but it's not really particularly notable in terms of plot and characterization et al, imo. KlK actually kinda' tries at that, as bloody bizarre as parts of it get. as an example, you could probably be told that there's a terrorist/rebellion organization in the show called Nudist Beach. It is called that because the members go into combat and do most things, y'know. Nude. There's actually plot reasons for that, but... yeah.

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... that... still happens in meatspace. Probably even moreso, really. Emotive reactions and the non-verbal dimension of communication makes those sorts of outcomes much easier in a lot of situations. To say nothing of the significantly more influential social aspects involved. Internet discussions are a lot less likely to end up with you having broken limbs, out of a job, or thrown out on the street, et al.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: June 13, 2016, 09:35:34 pm »
... most normal is not 100% normal.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: June 13, 2016, 09:32:24 pm »
It's okay, americans look strange to americans

especially at walmart at 3:00 AM
I actually think those times have been the ones where the people were the most normal. Often pretty tired or really kinda' chill, but generally just folks trying to do their shopping and move along. Also tends to be a lot quieter.

The weird times are usually the afternoon, after work and or school is out, honestly.

... but yeah, that's around when I usually went grocery shopping, back in college. No traffic, no nuisances in the store, etc., etc. It's a good time to shop if you can manage it.

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Other Games / Re: Dawn of War 3
« on: June 13, 2016, 08:53:03 pm »
The Eldar called and said Human War Walkers look stupid.
... actually, y'know. That thing kinda' looks like it could have came out of Exosquad. And I can respect that. That one in particular could use some work, but the general aesthetic can be pretty a'ight.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: June 13, 2016, 07:41:33 pm »
It kinda' reframes the entire theme of the game, is the thing. You're not a questing, you're a murdering your way around as one (or two) monkey invasion. Simian death squad on the loose, etc., etc.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: June 13, 2016, 07:36:50 pm »
Huh. Watching an LP. Brought up something I also had never noticed. Donkey Kong Country 2. Is not Diddy Kong's Quest. It's Diddy's Kong Quest. Conquest, for those that don't grok it immediately.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: June 13, 2016, 07:11:42 pm »
Yeah... most may not, but there's definitely a subset that does. And a larger one that spends a fair amount of time encouraging a great deal of general hostility towards certain sorts.

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Wasn't saying it actually worked, OW, just that the U.S. does, in fact, have armed people walking around regularly.

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They're upthread somewhere. Probably more than once. Go hunting, the headache is precluding it for me.

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... we kinda' do, neo. They're called police. It's not uncommon for one to be on school campuses, these days.

And insofar as the NRA goes, they do seem to either actually believe the concept of dissuasion, or at least are being paid enough by firearms manufacturers to make a really good showing of it. There's a reason those polls and whatnot clinton's team made that snafu about exists, heh.

Though no, there's not going to be mandatory firearms for teachers at some point in the future. That would be completely goddamn bugnuts, and enough people know it it's not going to happen.

Also no, unless the numbers have massively reversed in the last few years, having firearms in the house does not improve home safety. At least statistically; there's always outliers where it does, but in general, it in fact increases the likelihood someone in your house is going to die or be injured fairly substantially. Not just in relation to a home invasion, mind, though those as well so far as I'm aware.

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Ah, for what it's worth, now that I actually look beyond ATF it looks like the most explicit statement about the firearm at the moment is coming out of Mother Jones. Semi-auto, 30 round magazine. No clue if it's actually accurate, but that's the clearest statement I've seen, yet.

E: Though it does look like some other sources seem to be saying the same thing, some of them before the MJ article, so it looks like there's a good chance it's accurate.

... basically, all this talk about modification is... probably kinda' pointless. Gun appears to have been more or less over the counter.

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... okay, having had a close family friend that was an actual small time gunsmith (until alzheimers got 'em, anyway; they're still alive, but yeah.), no, gunsmithing and whatnot (assembly, modification, etc.) is not some kind of impossible task. Hell, maintenance is usually pretty simple and only rarely really takes tools beyond what you might have around the house normally.

Doing anything precise with gunsmithing (y'know, that part that makes guns even remotely reliable), however (like, hey, doing anything even remotely resembling a substantial modification), is something that's significantly more difficult than a whole hell of a lot of things, and something that takes both a great deal of effort and no small skill. Extremely difficult may not be the word for it, but it's not some task that's even remotely easy, either.

 Don't underestimate how difficult it is to have a gun that's not complete shit without having both pretty good tools (not specialized, iirc, but it's not unlikely your average small shop just isn't going to have tools that are enough up to spec to let you do serious modification and still reliably prevent things like, y'know, the gun exploding) and a damn good idea of what you're doing, is what I'm saying.

If the gun's built to be easily modified it's one thing, but if it's not, stuff just got complicated. Not impossible, just like making an IED in your basement is not impossible, but complicated in a number of different ways.

E: All that said, do we actually have any news about the AR-15 being modified, yet? ATF's twitter's last statement is still just that it was legal.

E2: Ah, it apparently wasn't an AR-15 at all. Look downthread a little for a link.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: June 13, 2016, 02:38:51 pm »
Only on tuesday and two twenty shots of tequila.

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