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Mm. Vis a vis the folks expressing incredulity the primary weapon used was legal, uh. Looks like it was. More'n one news source reporting it, anyway, and apparently they're getting it straight from ATF and the orlando police. Statements made on their twitters, as ungodly a source as that is. Kinda' brusque and no mention of after market modifications (or lack thereof), but... yeah. Those who were wondering, first blush seems to be looking like they were legal.

... also looks like that fact is throwing fuel on about a half dozen different fires already, too, for what it's worth.

E: Also looks like they've started releasing names of the deceased and whatnot. I... have to say I'm kinda' conflicted about that. On one hand, recognition, sympathy, etc. On the other, there's almost certainly going to be people among the deceased that wouldn't have wanted to be outed or associated with a primarily homosexual venue even post mortum. Would be morbidly unsurprised if there's a few more news stories in the coming weeks about survivors or friends of the deceased being attacked

Quote from: Orange Wizard on June 13, 2016, 05:58:08 am

8C at night? Is it summer where you live?

Winter. Eight degrees celsius is torture. I cannot fathom why people even live in frozen areas.

... 8C isn't even freezing. It's in the forties, fahrenheit. That's jacket and pants weather, but not much else. Those days (the few we get) are a gorram blessing in florida

Hell is most of the rest of the year, when the external temperature is pushing over the internal one. You can keep adding clothes when it's cold, and you've got that whole internal heater thing going on. You run out very quickly of clothes to remove when the air is trying to cook you, and your native cooling options try to kill you. Bring 8C. 8C is not 35+C. 8C you can live through with a nice jacket and good pants. 35+C not even being nude will save you.

Only in having watched and enjoyed the initial english dub.

... did eastern europe/western asia even have cartoon network back in the day? I legit don't know, and I'm pretty sure serg's somewhere in the area of russia.

... td1, you realize that several times that many people are killed in the U.S. per annum by Christians, yeah?  The folks that bomb abortion clinics or the gang member that goes to church on Sunday and goes to murder on monday are working off the same text too, but they're damn sure not christian by any heuristic most Christians would care to accept. Same sentiment, even if the particulars (more extremist support, et al) are somewhat different.

No one really cares about them? You can certainly give them away before they're finished weaning. Presumably the legal assumption, particularly with financial transactions, is that the person making the purchase/obtaining the animal is aware of how to care for young animals. It's not like it's particularly impossible... usually not even that difficult, just tedious. Family's raised up a few cats from similar conditions, so there's some exposure to it, f'me. Probably should be some kind of waiver to sign or summat like that, but... well, it's paperwork for a small subset of animals. Not much incentive to actually have laws for it. Egregious stuff gets bundled under animal cruelty. The occasional neglect death or whathaveyou is generally just kinda' shrugged off.

In any case, animal cruelty requires someone pressing the charges, and sometimes wouldn't stick even if the person shot the heads off kittens or something of similar nature (this has happened more than once in my area, for what it's worth.). Most areas and most people don't really care or have enough awareness to do much on that front, and in most places I'm aware of in the US, in any case, there's not really that much in the way of legal protections for animals, as animals *shrugs* As people's property is a different story, but...

... you were ninja'd, space.