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General Discussion / Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« on: May 26, 2016, 10:17:11 pm »
More than just fanservice, OW, was the distinction I was making, if it needs to be made more explicit. You can have fanservice and other stuff, too.

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... this exchange sounds like something that deserves pictures. Considering there's only really two sides left, and both of them would have been able to see it, maybe someone can give pictures?

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General Discussion / Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« on: May 26, 2016, 10:08:32 pm »
Okay, so my sole exposure to that franchise is a few times of watching other people play. But.

Something about the scale involved there seems... off. Also the riding thing! I don't remember seeing the riding thing. Just how much of that trailer(?) triggered instinctive revulsion from people that actually play the game?

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General Discussion / Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« on: May 26, 2016, 09:49:00 pm »
Yes. Can be good for comedy. Also a buncha' other stuff! Including romance.

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General Discussion / Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« on: May 26, 2016, 09:29:40 pm »
Sometimes ecchi is for more than fanservice, OW. Though yeah, checking images from the show it definitely looks like crux would have been more accurate to say it's not just for fanservice.

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General Discussion / Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« on: May 26, 2016, 09:25:19 pm »
I'unno FD, Raising certainly fits the gundam thing better. Nanoha's totally an inspiration and whatnot, too. Just. Sometimes through violence. The heart makes no mention as to if they're being raised up from their troubles or in preparation for a suplex.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: May 26, 2016, 09:12:15 pm »
Haven't played it, but I'll totally agree the LP footage for it was pretty impressive, if nothing else :V

Don't think that game's been getting as much attention as it probably deserves, really.

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... what did any of that have to do with whether it changed folks' lives? Though... not really just if you're a robot. The definition of court that's been being used has been squiggly as all hell quite often in the last few pages.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: May 26, 2016, 08:41:59 pm »
There's already gameplay footage out there, KoSS. Looks pretty solid, honestly, if you're after non-X megaman gameplay. Which is... more or less what was promised.

... and yeah, it's got nothing on DNF. It'd have to quintuple its development time since funding (2013) to match that. DNF was in dev hell for fifteen years.

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General Discussion / Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« on: May 26, 2016, 08:29:42 pm »
I actually vaguely remember that thing getting pretty intense at points. It was airing in the states for good long while, years back.

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Maybe, maybe not. Near as I can recall, some sorts of reward program type things do have legal protections, some don't. Got no clue if there's actually laws on the books about discriminatory confiscation patterns, but I'd be kinda' surprised if there were.* Th'barrista'd probably get hit with something if it went to court, but it might not have anything to do with the confiscations.

*Getting companies let the law have any jurisdiction over that sort of thing has historically been a complete goddamn nightmare, and continues to very much be so, so far as I'm aware. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a few lawyers out there that were actually killed for trying :-\

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They are doing that. Sexual assault being against the code of conduct is irrelevant to this when the school takes upon itself to enact what can only be described as prosecution completely outside the public court system. A private body has no right, none whatsoever to independently take all the steps of arbitration that it can without themselves being arrested when what they're arbitrating on is also pubic law.
Except they kinda' do? A company will face little censor for firing, docking pay, etc., an employee who has violated public law (unless there's explicit laws against that, and, again, at-will is a thing.). Shit ain't exactly cheers and giggles if you steal from the company (or anyone else), and they're probably going to do significantly more to you than the courts will alone, depending on exactly what powers they have over you. They might not be able to explicitly fine you within the confines of the company's influence, but you prooobably signed away a whole hell of a lot when you signed those employment papers. Same concept, yeah. Far as I'm aware the actual law isn't really going to blink even if it happens when you're only suspected, either.

Like... if you want that sort of thing changed, cool. Pretty sure it's not particularly the state of things, though. And even then, you're probably dealing with a different framework with schools in particular just due to what they're doing and the nature of education certification and whatnot. Lot of the stuff that actually protects employees (or your average customers) doesn't protect students, last I checked. Which you could call bullshit on, but it's something fairly substantially different from what you an'strife's been talking about.

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And I shall remind you that contract law is also subject to public arbitration when in contention, so they aren't even doing that right.
... are the students actually requesting legal arbitration? Are the contracts themselves actually in contention? It's not an automatic thing, mate, and it can't be invoked under all circumstances.

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Court, (n.); A system that judges the existence, culpability, and results of infractions of some or all forms of law.

"Colleges should not be allowed to set up their own courts." -MetalSlimeHunt
Sure! They're not. What these arbitration courts decide has nothing to do with any form of law. They don't judge the existence of laws, they don't determine cupability in relation to laws, and they have nothing to do with the results of infractions against laws. Unless, again, there is some really weird shit going on I can't remember hearing about.

The school code of conduct, and the various powers given to the school by the contracts signed, are not laws in any sense of the word I'm familiar with.

... now, if you want to gripe about contract law, good gods do you have a lot of room to gripe about contract law. There's a lot of room to gripe about contract law.

Regardless, there's a legally established principle that a contract that lacks basic fairness isn't enforceable or allowable.
Yeeeaaaaaahhh, there is, but it's in a very, very conceptual sense. Contract law rulings (well, besides "GTFO of my courtroom") in regards to that sort of thing almost never happens except when people of diminished mental capacity are involved. There is a freaking ridiculous amount of wiggle room if both parties are of sound and legally competent mind. What the schools are doing isn't even scratching the surface of that damned pit of horrors, heh.

Your sense of basic fairness (mine, too, and probably most people's) and what our legal system considers basic fairness is... very different. It's one of those cases where the general use word is not really 1:1 in meaning with the technical use in the field in question.

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... well yeah. This is why you pay attention to what contracts you sign.

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Well sure, MSH. These school arbitration courts have no legal jurisdiction, so far as I'm aware? They can't put someone in jail, can't really fine someone (though the student's contract with the school probably does lock them into being legally culpable for any monetary reparations decided on, to some degree), so on, so forth. The extent of the power they have over a student is what that student contractually agreed to, no more, and no less.

If that's untrue, this'd be the first I've heard of it. Also very, very strange, and something I'd pretty easily agree is bullshit and should stop.

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