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Messages - Frumple

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That's not completely true. My landlord can't kick me out over what I post on here without other reason, I can't be fired, I can't be arrested. All the social consequences in the world are perfectly kosher. If everyone feels like unfriending me, it's my own fault for digging the hole.
You must not live in an at-will employment state. Good for you :V

Never. Move.

Must have damn good renter's protection, too, or at least paid close attention to the contract.

Also I'm pretty sure there actually is a number of things you could post here that'd get you arrested. Just throwing that out there.

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It's when one's input in that marketplace of ideas gets a line of special snowflakes demanding someone be fired that it's a problem.
Then... again, you have a significantly larger problem than colleges. That happens pretty much literally everywhere. In stores, in schools, in government positions, in the military, bloody everywhere. Good gods, that shit gets people thrown out of homes by way of intrafamily conflict. And all of that has been happening longer than either of us have been alive. Combined. It isn't even remotely some kind of phenomena related to a particular side of the political spectrum or a particular arena, either; social dislike leading to career consequences is friggin' endemic. It's largely why you be polite in the first ruddy place.

It's... also not something that's going to go away so long as we're even remotely human. Personality and idea conflicts leading to issues in cooperation means that there's obviously going to be any number of social and more-than-social pressures to keep that shit under wraps.

Seems you do have a problem with all of it, though, which is fair enough. Just a little odd you seem to be singling out college arbitration in particular as a major issue on that front, y'know? There's a hella' lot more people operating under company codes of conduct, ferex, which is usually even harsher and often has less recourse to boot, while still having the same problems re: potentially false claims.

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Ah, no... was talking about this. Not sure how much it's been followed up since, but th'study mentioned apparently found the same type of fungal infection in the brains of every alzheimer's effected cadaver they checked, within a fairly small sample group.

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Wunnit they saying something about something fungal related not too long ago? Looks like they were, checking google, though those links are talking about something else. Wonder if it's going to end up that there's actually several different causes causing the same symptoms... know they have some kind of name for that, for all I've completely forgotten it.

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Anyone who has ever threatened my career, educational career, or legal standing over being polite is an enemy of free society, yes Maniac.
So... every business (try cussing out your customers, boss, or fellow employees :V), all of the government (hello, all those legal restrictions on how you talk to people), and every school in the country (If my material wealth was a hundred dollars for every time a student got to go on a vulgarity spewing rant inside a classroom and remain in that school, I would be very, very poor). Military, too. I can only imagine how fast the MPs would drag your ass away if you started swearing a blue streak at the local base commander(s). You have many enemies of free society in free society, including this very forum!

Honestly, I think your only ally may be stand up comedy.

And yeah, a lot of the kneejerk stuff is indeed paranoia about lawsuits. Usually there's fucks given for the rest of it, too, just not as many. Also, the arbitration and whatnot has... nothing to do with the justice system. Like, yeah, that's the shape it's taking, but there's no legal basis for basically anything going on there. It's just a weird way of handling complaints and shit, and probably less kangaroo-y than your average HR manager. What y'all are really lamenting, t'be honest, is the relatively poor (knowledge of, in particular) contract law that lets schools just kinda' do whatever on that front and legally force the students to take it, because the students, y'know, agreed to that. Read the fine print :V

Lotta' different ways you could get a handle on that, but who knows if we'll ever bother.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: May 26, 2016, 02:45:11 pm »
Well yeah, of course not. M'just curious how deep the rabbit hole goes. Not trying to budge it, just trying to figure out how it's constructed. It's rather incredibly abnormal, after all.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: May 26, 2016, 02:38:46 pm »
What was the original point you were trying to make, that humanity hasn't developed a lot after 1950 because we didn't invent a lot of things?
Eh, more along the lines that we haven't developed because we haven't invented specific things in specific ways, apparently.

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And... yeah. You're definitely going to get disagreement that we're not moving, because there's, y'know, whole hosts of crap happening in regards to scientific development right now. The movement is significant, you're just... intentionally, apparently... applying a filter to it that disregards it.

... though, with what you just said, why would you compare the trains by their drive systems instead of their function? The drive system is a component system, the part that moves the freight. If a steam and maglev train are indeed different technologies, then a film and digital camera would be just as well. They both have one primary point of functional similarity (focusing light via lens, carrying freight), and one primary point of component difference (capturing its imprint via chemical or digital means, providing movement by steam or maglev).

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: May 26, 2016, 02:10:13 pm »
... so what's the heuristic we're supposed to be using to determine what the important part of the technology is, anyway? Like, me, I'd consider the capturing bits (i.e. the chemical or digital aspect) significantly more important than the lenses (lots of stuff we don't call cameras use lenses to focus and capture an image, they just tend to use the existent biological systems for the capturing method), and I'm curious how this system is doing its... granularity, I think the word is. Because with what's been said so far, I'd be charitably calling it unclear.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: May 26, 2016, 01:57:31 pm »
... does it use energy to move things? Yes? Still basic motor. The means which it uses the energy is irrelevant.

This is a strange way to try to categorize the world.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: May 26, 2016, 01:23:25 pm »
... yeeaaaah, if you're going to call a steam engine and a maglev fundamentally identical things, there's not much left to say. You're welcome to continue viewing human development as stagnant, NFO. Me, I'll be watching the ridiculous strides we're continuing to make on pretty much all fronts. We're doing some crazy stuff these days.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: May 26, 2016, 12:58:17 pm »
Making something you already have better is literally one of the definitions of development, null.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: May 26, 2016, 12:44:18 pm »
... have you paid zero attention to every other facet of scientific development that's been made since 1950? It's freaking ridiculous, we've been making huge strides in basically every facet of human existence, from medicine (hello, we have basic functioning cybernetic eyes now -- we have started giving sight to the blind) to material science (all sorts of crazy junk are coming out of labs right now). Cultural development has exploded just in the last thirty years, even -- we're seeing shit happen in years what would have taken decades a century or two ago, and producing more raw material than bloody centuries managed.

And personally, I don't call making all the annoying work go away crazy or stupid. The whole point is so we can do other things -- be with friends and family, be creative, work out of desire instead of necessity, whatever -- instead of having to constantly spend effort on things we can just have some machine do. Crazy and stupid is not having some sort of framework to support folks by when they don't actually have to work (or at least not nearly as much) to keep humanity fed and sheltered, though, that's definitely true.

11128
... made what? I guess I could look it up, but that's literally the first time I've seen (or heard) those words put together as a proper noun, is more the point.

11129
I... have no idea who that is. Having read the article, I still have no idea who that is. I don't think I've ever actually seen reference to him before this day. Anywhere. Ruddy media.

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Presumably, yeah. Fair few colleges that have student governance type stuff where some (usually elected, iirc) get called in to arbitrate violations of the school policy. Usually with some oversight by staff, near as I can recall. Not sure if that's what strife's talking about, but I'm guessing it is. It... doesn't really have much or anything to do with actual legal stuff, though, so far as I'm aware, save when it sends stuff off to the cops for actual/suspected violations of the law as opposed to just school policy.

Haven't paid much attention to it, personally. Stuff was pretty low key in the schools I went to, and I had other things on the mind.

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