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Oh, really? I thought Sander's thing was how the status quo needs to change. Voting Hillary is status quo as far as I can see.
Nooot exactly. She'd still be pushing several (most, really) things in the same direction he wants to, if perhaps more slowly, and Sander's thing is how the status quo needs to change in a particular direction, not just change, period. He wouldn't support, say, Cruz (or Trump, if anyone ever figures out what the hell he'd do, policy wise), just because the guy was also anti-establishment (to some degree, anyway) and would shake things up. Sanders is like the exact opposite of a "burn things down today to build tomorrow"* kinda' person, and would definitely recommend supporting some that's at least mostly okay over someone that proposes a lot of odious shit and happens to hammer the anti-quo drum at the same time.

*Err... well, in the sense of not burning things down. The exact opposite of that would mostly be the republican party, where "burn the future down to build today" is pretty close to gospel. Well... literally gospel in some cases, but you get what I mean.

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Not... really? They have pretty similar voting records and whatnot, and do (seem to, in any case) agree on a lot of subjects, even if the desired implementations differs.

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General Discussion / Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« on: May 11, 2016, 09:26:38 pm »
It's arguably even more endemic to LNs and webnovels and whatnot than manga, though...

That said, anime originals period are pretty rare, near as I've ever noticed. Most of 'em start off as manga or LNs or somethin', so harem ones in particular being pretty rare is... not exactly surprising?

Though looking around it definitely looks like there's a fair bit more than Tenchi. Most seem less well known, and just about the only list I've found for anime originals (harem or otherwise) is on TVTropes (so bugger linking it; google'll find it for you if you want to look), but there's a fair number of harem shows on the list in any case.

E:... though I see in the time I wrote that you edited your post to be something entirely different, so... disregard, I guess?

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General Discussion / Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« on: May 11, 2016, 09:14:17 pm »
Doesn't really have anything to do with japan in particular, though. That kind of behavior is endemic to creative works worldwide, both commercial and otherwise, animated or not. It's a symptom of how people (especially less experienced writers) tell stories more than anything, s'far as I've been able to tell. Folks read a story they like, and then they want to write one like it. Sometimes the reason for liking it may be fiscal (i.e. they know the story archetypes sell), but plenty of times they just... like it, y'know? Harem (or <insert whatever>) drivel sells for a reason.

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General Discussion / Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« on: May 11, 2016, 08:56:59 pm »
I'unno about the twenty worst harem animes,* but I'd take 20 bad ones over 20 middling sitcoms any day of the week. Even fairly bad harem animes are more watchable than your average sitcom, imo. At least the former occasionally has interesting settings :V

Though yeah, what you're actually going to run into neo is a show that is absolute garbage until the harem gets involved. That's the good stuff. Pretty sure I ran into one of those a year or two ago, but zog knows I couldn't remember the title, or... well, anything, at the moment. What I can recall... some kind of generic fantasy until the character interactions kicked in, and it actually handled the harem aspect with some aplomb and not just UST and fanservice. Unfortunately, "generic fantasy setting with harem" describes... probably a few dozen LNs I've read in the last few years. It's... kinda' common >_>

*My response to being forced to make the choice between worst and worst would be decking whatever bastard was trying to do that to me, and then leaving. I would literally rather eat an assault charge than go through that.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: May 11, 2016, 01:01:49 pm »
English intos english whatever english pleases.

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Honey, we're not even close to going full political philosophy.

... though yeah, I can only guess the news will be fairly slow until sanders loses the nomination, heh. Save for the beginning of the ramp up of shitslinging between trump and clinton, anyway. Have to admit, I'm almost curious as to how that's going to turn out. Both get a lot of press and a lot of negative press, and the likelihood of the latter jacking up even higher is... large. By the time november rolls around the major media organizations may just be reporting of the contest between Ba'al and Mephistopheles, having forgotten the actual names of the candidates months earlier.

E: Which would make walking by TVs for the next handful of months a lot more interesting, honestly. Now I'm actually hoping things go that route, even if I know it's the proverbial first step.

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Other Games / Re: Leftover Goodies
« on: May 10, 2016, 08:55:01 pm »
... DmC, if no one's asked via PM? Always kinda' wanted to try one of those.

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The church in this case means whichever one the particular conservative is attached to :P Or whichever brand they go by... usually even the ones that aren't church goers are still very much inclined towards a certain denomination, or regular listening to particular preachers.* I'm very much aware of the fractious nature of american religious groups, heh.

*I'd moderate the language a bit to be less inclined towards christianity in most conversations, but, uh. America thread. Even more than that, discussion about american social conservatives. There's not enough of those that are aligned with a non-christian religion to really be worth talking about :V

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Ah, I do think that's the core of it, Reelya, but even then I think authoritarianism and social conservatism are far from the same thing.
Could you expand on that a bit? I'd probably agree they're not strictly identical, but far from the same thing is... not the words I'd use. It's hard to argue that there's more than two major camps in social conservatism (especially the american sort), one appealing to scripture/religious social mores and the other appealing to tradition. The former pretty much is authoritarianism, just with the church replacing a (more) secular government and maybe (as it often isn't as well; see the vein of social conservatism in the US demanding God be in everything, especially the government) being more limited in scope, and the latter shares... a lot of authoritarianism's traits, if sometimes different leading influences (i.e it may actually be anti-establishment, but that doesn't mean it's not very much an appeal/adherence to authority -- of previous years, in this case -- more than just about anything).

So... what kind of major gap between them are you seeing?

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... I actually don't remember when that happened. Will admit I never paid much attention to anti-public transit arguments, mostly because the argument's won in the area I'm in and public transit barely exists. Tell us more?

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General Discussion / Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« on: May 09, 2016, 08:39:24 pm »
... is that not enough?

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Remember, the right wing party is the one often hoarsely shouting to reduce the government.
Eehhh... if you're talking the republicans, that's honestly sorta' arguable. They are regularly shouting to reduce parts of the government (education, welfare, healthcare)*, but they're also regularly shouting (sometimes in the same sentence) for massive increases in other parts (military, law enforcement, business)*. The governmental reduction thing is rather inconsistent, y'know?

*Non-exhaustive examples, of course.

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We need more Welders and less Philosophers.
If the words of my welding certified family members are anything to go by, we really don't. Welding apparently isn't that far from just outright oversaturation, and it can be fairly difficult to find work doing it in many areas. Does seems like underwater welding is a fair bit better off, but, uh. They're also about forty times more likely to die than the average american citizen.

Philosophers... we need to actually hire the damn things where they'll help (i.e. teaching the technical skills involved in the field before college, actually getting used for ethics boards, etc., etc.) more than we need less of them, since there's already damn few. There's just not that many of them, academia wise -- they're usually one of the smallest programs on a college campus (when the program even exists!), and very much aware that if they're there, they're probably not there to advance their career in any direct sense. We still need 'em, because if nothing else the mechanics behind rhetoric, logic, and ethics are fucking vital and more ignored every year, but they're not exactly flooding their (barely existent, and long since stuffed to the gills) applicable markets.

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Do you guys have own meaning of word liberal in america? ???
Yup.

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