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What we were referencing only partially has anything to do with violence, though. Some of the worst problems with abrahamic religions* in general is the other parts of the belief system, that mandate very counterproductive (in regards to the whole progressive worldview thing, in particular if not exclusively) or damaging behaviors. Much of their muckery regarding gender roles and relationships, parts regarding health (faith healing and reliance on god instead of, y'know, medicine, and all the mess involved in related subjects, is something that kills quite a few people yearly and causes a great deal of suffering beside) and safety, sustainability, sexual practices, there's just sort of this sundry list of stuff that has little to nothing to do directly with violence (for all that bits of them definitely inculcate it as a side effect) and yet still causes great heaping piles of generally fairly overt harm. There's charities and positive teachings and whatnot to offset some of that, but it's hard to tell where exactly the balance falls overall, for all it's really easy to tell what the net effect is in specific areas.**

Still, as I said, for all that they're a yoke around the neck in a lot of situations, religious beliefs are still only occasionally the primary cause of the various problems they contribute to, are at times a mitigating instead of exacerbating factor, and, as per various examples throughout history, can probably be worked around fairly capably. They slow a lot of what we've found to be good things down, but it's not an entirely one-way thing, nor is their abolition even remotely a necessary thing for moving forward with the proverbial good shit. Roughest part is probably that religious influence is generally a pretty strong one, regardless as to if it's positive or negative -- very volatile, basically, which is something to contributes to an argument to be leery of it.

*Not necessarily saying similar stuff doesn't exist in other ones, it's just the A-bros are kinda' the big elephants in the room, considering they have a fairly notably chunk of the human population under their umbrella.

**The area I'm personally in being pretty strongly on the net negative side of things is something I've had to spend quite a few years trying to get a handle on vis a vis religion in general, heh, and still prooobably have a ways to go.

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Okay, thanks, will try it when I get back home
And if that doesn't work, or you want something even more painless, you can use this link, which is just a direct link to the mod hosted on upl.co. Not intervening web pages, no nothing, just the .zip and happiness. happiness possibly not included in download

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: December 30, 2015, 01:28:34 pm »
That sudden realization that a high strength halfling would make an absolutely incredible baseball batter. Their strike zone would be basically nonexistent.

You can top it, of course. Pixies and whatnot. That's just getting silly, though.

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Religious states are different from religious people. Religious states are what's holding back social progress. Not the religion itself.
N... no, that's fairly untrue. The influence of christian people in non-religious states in africa (and south america, for what it's worth, not that anyone ever cares about SA) have definitely been contributing to the difficulties on that front in those regions, just as an example (one of many, really). Catholicism in particular has kinda been doing a number on africa, due to several things, but particularly its issues regarding sexual practices. There's a non-negligible amount of the aids epidemic pretty firmly on its shoulders, among other things.

That said, a lot of things are causing problems in those regions, not just religions or religion related activities, and by and large it's not even primarily religions (barring, of course, the occasional exceptions) causing the problem (though they're often contributory... and sometimes not, for what it's worth). As is fairly obvious, other areas have managed alright even under the burden of counterproductive religious influences. It's more than a little questionable whether it's really worth trying to fight things on that front in the areas in question -- just fix all the other stuff first, y'know? S'probably more tractable.

Just... maybe throw the fuckers that send money to have gays killed and whatnot in the name of their religion in jail or somethin'. That's probably pretty tractable.

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Other Games / Re: Reassembly: 2D Shape based space ship combat simulator
« on: December 29, 2015, 09:22:03 pm »
im fairly sure some simple mods could make those factions playable, but i doubt theyd be very interesting to play.
S'already one in the workshop. They're indeed kinda' boring to actually play.

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Eh, there's dozens of examples of such. Religious organizations are one of the biggest fraud/embezzlement/etc. markets in the world. There's terribly few environments better for a con to thrive in, heh.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: December 29, 2015, 08:24:40 pm »
If you're still using the same prescription, true, it can be blurry even if things have improved. S'fairly likely, honestly -- if the glasses aren't tuned right, it's going to cause problems regardless as to how better or worse your eyesight is relative to the prescription. Which you're probably well aware of, heh. Doc may just be off a bit in suggesting you don't need yours updated. Would be my best guess, anyway.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: December 29, 2015, 07:33:59 pm »
Sounds like it'll be hell on the haptic bitsies' lifetime, though...

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General Discussion / Re: Ted Cruz's Netflix and Chill 2016 Megathread
« on: December 29, 2015, 07:20:24 pm »
So hey, looks like pataki dropped/is dropping. I can only assume this will make him slightly more relevant to the presidential race :V

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: December 28, 2015, 09:51:59 pm »
Alternately, having them on the shelves makes the other products sell better. Is possibility!

Or some other reason. Maybe they ward off vermin (not even the rats will gnaw on skinny jeans!) and keep the other clothes from developing sudden onset moth damage.

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... not, really. From most of what I've noticed the historical bits that can be corroborated are often fairly... tenuous, or distorted, at best, when it's not what as near as we've been able to tell outright fabrication. The biblical texts are vaguely useful for history research due to most everything else scraped together from stuff that far back also being pretty terrible, but historical accuracy is not even remotely what I expect from the text. It's not a history book. It wasn't written to maintain historical accuracy, or even to record historical events. It's mostly a collection of oral and/or second (at best) hand stories about fanciful things, with all the hilarious inaccuracies that develop when you're working with something like that over a lengthy period.

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General Discussion / Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« on: December 28, 2015, 09:05:32 pm »
Supposition: Your response is why what happened, happened. Sometimes a writer just wants to screw with the consumer :V

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: December 28, 2015, 08:19:56 pm »
Hemming's a bit different than rolling up your pants leg :P

May have just been dialect mismatch. Hemmed pants are, indeed, pretty alright. The impromptu version is notably more... notable.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: December 28, 2015, 07:54:14 pm »
If it were socially acceptable and meteorologically viable, I would wear the loosest of robery. Most of my stuff is already fairly loose, and if I could make it looser without it falling off and/or being a complete fashion disaster, I totally, totally would. Form obscuring and floaty are my favorite clothing styles. I like to swish and be able to comfortably hide a kukuri and/or shotgun in my sleeves.

Sadly, society does not approve of loose and form covering clothing, nor have I yet gotten around to figuring out the fabric required to be able to wear something like that in somewhere like florida without dying or having to cannibalize a computer's cooling system for personal use.

And you can do that, gig, but the metaphorical upturned noses you'd receive doing so in anything but the least formal of situations renders it... let's call it "socially unwise".

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: December 28, 2015, 06:17:35 pm »
They did] warn you when you went in for facial reconstruction and full frontal tattooing, siru. I realize the voodoo hobo queen was very persuasive, but there are consequences...

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