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Bush also has depressingly low poll numbers;
My floridian senses tell me you misspelled "reassuringly", there. It doesn't start with a d :P

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Other Games / Re: XMAS 2015 GIVEAWAY - 25 Days of Festive Wookie Cookies
« on: December 15, 2015, 11:48:09 pm »
It really is a pretty nice game, heh. Neat lil' puzzle-ish sorta' metroidvania. I would've signed up for it m'self, if I didn't already have it :P

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: December 15, 2015, 10:48:40 pm »
I'm just glad!  And honestly the scenario was so absurdly horrid that I didn't believe it, but I didn't want to jump in and call anyone a liar.  Particularly on the off chance.
For what it's worth, I have had cats mown over before. As well as chickens, rabbits, and probably some things I'm forgetting. Quick enough thing small enough to get under the machine blindsides someone driving a riding lawnmower around and there's not going to be much left besides a mess. And there's definitely people that'd do it intentionally :-\

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I see the longstanding tradition of giving no fucks abut the bell is continuing.

It should have been a loud gong IMO.

I can't even HEAR the bell on the TV.
They need to get an actual gong up there. Not just the sound effect, a giant gong manned by burly men wearing nothing but harem pants and oil. When time is called, the debaters would be too distracted by the glistening manflesh rippling across the stage to keep babbling.

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... dude does realize it's folks like him we'd probably be best off killing if we were going to buy our freedom like that, right? Is he sure he wants us younger folks to start watering the tree?

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Yeaaah, I wasn't exactly worried about fairig after massive armies of pigeons beelined towards my provinces right through them. Doubly so once they started trying to tear through boksi, too. Thus-far-passive neighbors vs aggressively expansionist neighbor isn't much of a choice :P

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Look, if that kind of play is how carson gets his jollies at that age, so long as it's not hurting anyone we shouldn't judge. Even if it's bleeding over to stated policy.

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So they all underestimated you,
...they thought you were harmless
...and then you won.

I suddenly feel vindicated for vilifying you in all those Dom3 games we fought.  Yay!
It was less "underestimated" and more "the south was embroiled in a more or less 3v1 war that the 3 was willing to stop but the 1 wasn't" and couldn't do anything about it before riz took off. Al played kingmaker, basically :P

Though, to be fair, the pox ridden mire that most of the south ended up as part of that kerfluffle probably didn't help.

Maybe in retrospect the 20+ flying bane venom carrying servants wasn't the best of resource expenditures. I'll be damned it wasn't satisfying, though.

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Do you have an opinion? Does the Internet discourage people having intellectual debate and actually coming to conclusive answers? Do you have any experiences or evidence to back up your claim?
It's probably somewhat sideways to the intent of the question you're asking, but I would probably argue that the internet has done more to encourage intellectual debate and coming to (the next best thing to) conclusive answers than any human invention since relatively effective courier mail.

Evidence: Internet enabled academic/experimental/economic/etc. cooperation and communication and the freakishly improved capabilities we've had in that field since the internet started to propagate. There has not existed a point in human history where we were as physically capable of holding robust intellectual debate as we are now, and there's frankly any number of fields (academic or otherwise) where that's incredibly visible -- basically any that's seeing any meaningful degree of international cooperation would be a dead-on example thereof. Even if there has been some sort of reduction of the average level of discourse, the sheer expansion of the amount is what I'd call a gigantic net positive, even if that leads to its own problems.

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Is that the only reason though? There must be some data out there where they compare various racial groups correlating for income.
Can't really be arsed to hunt it up right now, but yeah, it's out there, somewhere. Just (or even primarily, really) classism it damn sure fucking isn't. You can see it in the bloody narrative, even -- you don't get the poor performance concerns near as often when it's poor white folks instead of poor minority ones (the former may still be directed away from higher end colleges, but it's because of cost issues, not capability), and often still see the damned things when the minority students aren't poor or coming out of shitty schools. Sentiment you're seeing about shit like that generally isn't some misattributed concern over the likelihood of class-related capability, it's straight up bloody racism. Mixed with classism, maybe, but still primarily what it is.

Except that you don't end discrimination, either through race or gender, by forcing more people in to places they don't want to be or don't belong.
Also, really? Really? Of all the words in the bloody english language, "don't belong" is what you go with?

Won't lie, the phrasing makes me want to straight up jump down your throat feet first and trailing a jackhammer -- we've been fighting that fucking sentiment in the US for the better part of a century now, and bowing to it instead of jamming people into its craw is damn sure not how I'd want to see the fight continue. Putting people in places where they "don't belong" actually has done a damn lot over the years to work us towards ending discrimination. It's never been a bloody silver bullet, but you can't fix inequality issues by keeping the unequal groups separated, either.

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Really, the weirdest thing to me about those sacred giants, in this game, was that... none of the sacred giant people really did anything with them (from what I could see, anyway). Boksi was the most aggressive sacred user I noticed, and they staled like 1/10th of their turns. Don't think ever really attacked anyone except Al, either. EA got jumped by pigeons, BFEL and Iwa just seemed to somehow die off while playing in the water or somethin', it was ruddy weird. I was seriously expecting giants to come stomping over the everything for probably the first thirty turns or so, but it never seemed to manifest.

Though re: Giants and costing, while it'd probably be (much) easier to bump their price/add penalties, what I'd probably like to see more is doing something to the little people. Make it so tiny folk in a world of sacred giants actually have something that can gold-for-gold match the blighters. Maybe do something really silly and have the generation process check (probably near the end of the process) for size>own!sacred and dole out a point or ten of giant killer for every size category they're lacking (maybe multiplied by the percentage of genned nations that have a giant sacred?), or something to similar effect. A post-gen check for % of genned nations that have sacred giants, and then adding more stuff to everyone else's sacreds based on how prevalent they are, that kind of thing. Think I said it somewhere else, it wasn't really the giants or the formorians, it was just how many people had the things that was the major problem -- didn't have that kind of meta balance the base game has, where a giant nation is more or less all alone.

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I'd kinda' like to keep going and see what sort of nuisance I can make of myself (got six astral mages this turn, and only lost three replaceable ones in the process!), but I'm not exactly heavily invested in continuing to play, either. I've honestly been half-arsing it roughly from the point Al rebuffed attempts to group up the south and jump the north. Probably earlier, really.

That said, that is three of the five remaining players* more or less calling it quits, sooo...

*Fairig? What fairig?

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: December 13, 2015, 09:30:02 pm »
Make sure you didn't press the button (combination) that turns off wifi? Or disconnect yourself through some other means.

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I mean, 600 meters is quite a lot of distance for personal weapons.
Sorta'? I mean, a bog standard .22 hunting rifle can kill from further out than that (I've personally seen 'em drop wildlife at a further distance a couple times*), it's just not exactly likely. Accuracy's mostly pants, fair bit of the killing force bleeds off, etc., etc., but it's still entirely capable of putting someone/thing in a grave. It doesn't matter how far out something is, you don't shoot at something you don't intend to kill, pretty much period.

E: *Actually, I was forgetting my conversions a bit. I've seen 'em dropped at that distance, but not much further -- five or six football fields out, or ~5-600m. Moral of the story, though, don't point a gun at something you don't intend to attempt to kill. If it's in sight distance, consider it being within mortal wound distance. It honestly doesn't matter if it is or not, you treat it that way.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: December 13, 2015, 04:58:02 pm »
i have accidentally gotten myself into a relationship. and after all the years of successfully avoiding it too.
Being unsure if condolences or congratulations are appropriate in this case, I will instead offer condolations. Condolations, red.

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