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that's partly why i included the point about good atheists

what, are they christians in the closet?

Look, desc, you spend over two thousand years without coming down to tune the mechanisms and see how well your corrective processes still work. For all we know the actual spirit emitting thingjigger is buried under a desert or somethin' and ain't been workin' right for centuries.

Though nah, it's pretty easy to set up studies to see how effective religious adherence of various sorts are at doing... y'know, most things. Last I checked there's been all sorts of stuff along those lines, if not as much as there could be. Stuff's fascinating for psychologists, anthropologists, sociologists, neurologists, etc., etc., etc. Last I paid much attention the results are middling at best, when it's not actively detrimental, especially compared to programs that inculcate similar behavior without the troublesome parts. Lotta' stuff that's a lot better than church service and bible readin' and so on for breedin' ethical behavior and whatnot.

Digital what now?

naaaah, you're fine

Ok, the first example is partly invalid because they generally act on the bribe here. The second is just a legal travesty.

It was an example, boh, not anything else. Seriously, US citizens and US based businesses are explicitly liable for violations of US law outside of US jurisdiction. If a US citizen violates US law outside of our borders, bloody anywhere, they are legally liable for that violation in US courts. An american citizen or US based business violating stateside law while outside the country is not (only, anyway) a matter of international law, it is a matter of US law and they can be charged, prosecuted, and punished under US legal code. It's one of the reasons extradition bloody exists.

The statement that legal violations outside the borders by US citizens (/US businesses, organizations, etc.) is not a matter of US law is explicitly false.

Besides earth attack (which is pretty easily one of the most vicious assassination spells in the entire game), was primarily thinking of melancholia (which is, to be fair, thaum 6), which is a pretty alright province wrecking one, if a titch expensive. Crumble's there, and if you've got a silly amount of evo research there's always volcanoes, ahehehe. And blight, if you can get some 2E1D somewhere -- blight is a freaking nightmare of a spell, honestly. Cheap remote BVC hit with added gold loss and an unrest kick, guaranteed to make someone's life miserable if used vigorously.

The possibility may presently present itself, given prudence on the part of the presidential polity.

Random MA Ulm thoughts: Iron Angel's pretty a'ight, iirc. Can definitely use regen/more reinvig/better weapons/etc., but they're not the worst thug/low SC chassis by any measure. Obviously better if your opponent is actually using sacred troops.

You've already noticed you've got decent workhorse combat spell access, so... keep using those. You should be more or less oozing master smiths out of your pores.

If you've got the D income, consider using the allfather to pump out a few revenants, who can take up the staff and start making staves for themselves/forging cheap D items*, or spamming raise spells in combat to chaff down the giants. Good way to bootstrap some D forging industry when you don't have native/indie casters available.

Don't forget your remote attack spells, and don't fear to research them up and use them -- E actually has some fairly nasty ones, if you can scrounge up boosters for your fairly anemic casters.

You might consider playing around with communions a bit -- one of the few easy-ish ways to get stronger battlefield spell access with MA Ulm's kinda' shitty path access (I actually hadn't noticed it until I checked just now -- did you know MA Ulm is literally the only nation in the middle age that doesn't have at least a chance at native, non-boosted 4X casters?). Ulm's even got really cheap access to the slave crystals via hammer'd master smiths if you don't want to screw around too hard with the scripting.

I'd probably recommend a lot of trinket forging if you're not already doing it -- those master smiths with hammers you should have a bazillion of can be putting out one gem 5X cost items to make your commanders more troublesome. The priest smiths you've been producing at the capital (... right? You have been?) can do the same thing for only a gem more. Warbows+aiming eyes from your A randoms (and owl quills, when they're not forging more offensive stuff), reinvig/MR (strength belt, lodestone) from anything, AM/crowns for the S randoms, fire jars for your F randoms looking to put out elementals or somethin', there's just a bunch of stuff you can be doing there if you've got the income and the mostly-idle casters. Remember: O (monthly forging) is Ulm's friend.

*Skelliespam amulets are pretty much always useful if you're using any non-caster commanders whatsoever. It takes all of 2D to set up a black servant/bane venom factory -- with a 2A forger somewhere, you can make them fly, too! _{And all of 1N gets nice stealth boosts on top of that, if you have N income you're not really using for anything} Jotuns are usually pretty gold intensive, so a nice flock of BVC carriers on their high income provinces can cripple them in cheerfully short order.

Not in any legal sense, from what I've picked up so far. The explicit statement was that what he said violated the president's oath in both word and spirit (youdon'tsay.png), which... isn't enough to actually get you barred, so far as I'm aware. Also DT (several of the republican candidates, really, and probably some of the democratic ones, too) has been shitting all over that for a while now.