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Imagine the Greek pantheon I guess.  If we met Poseidon, would we have a duty to shoot him?  Try to coexist as equals?  Or give him/them tribute for our existence, even though it's a rough and often unfair existence?

Most of the greek pantheon would be bastards we would very much need to kill if it were possible, and the fundamental forces of existence didn't require them existing. Or imprison/cripple/sideline, etc. This remains true for almost every divine entity described by human religions throughout history. There are very, very few described gods that aren't complete bastards from the human perspective -- pretty much every one of them are, at best, things we would lock up for life were they human. Most of them we would just straight up kill, because they're mass murderers, serial rapists, etc., etc., etc. The divinities described by humanity over the years are largely overpowered immoral filth that are credited with maybe occasionally doing nice things.* They are not things we want living and interacting with us, if it is at all possible to fix that situation.

As to the "what created it" thing, that's always a silly line of questioning. Eventually you either end up cyclical or at a thing that came from nowhere. And either of those explanations can explain pretty much anything -- if omnigod "just was", then a world without omnigod can also "just be". At some point in the chain of causality you draw an arbitrary line, y'know? Personal preference is to draw the line as early as possible, if there's no substantial reason to draw it later. There's "room" for a (perfect) god(s), but there's only need for existence, and reality appearing whole cloth is frankly more reasonable than a god(s) appearing whole cloth and then creating reality -- they've both got just as much proof, and the former has less assumptions, heh.

*And yes, you can claim that humans are the same way, but you'll note that the common human moral failings generally don't involve killing people, rape, torture, and so on. The common divine moral failings very much do. The gods are monsters, from the human perspective. Maybe not all of them, but definitely the vast majority.

Hey, take the time to talk if you need the time to talk _{so long as you're not staling, anyway}. Communication is pretty important to disciples games, heh.

A big reason for income inequality is that people don't talk about their salary.

So... more union work, you say. Interesting, ehehe.

... incidentally, that's like half the reason it's fairly common that businesses crack down on basically any intercommunication between workers regarding various conditions related to the job. Gotta' keep those unions out. Being fair, something like the other half is just to prevent on-site conflict, which isn't entirely without merit.

There's a third half shoved somewhere in there hiding various sorts of corruption. Plus somewhere around another quarter or so labeled "miscellaneous" without further explanation. We wouldn't be talking about business if we weren't cooking the numbers :V

And yeah, baff, plenty of that shit is various sorts of illegal, or skirting the line so close they might as well be sketching it. The problem with noting that is that it doesn't exactly stop employers, especially in the lower income areas. Something being illegal only particularly matters if the people being stepped on can afford to do something about it

Beyond that, of course most employers aren't stupid enough to actually fire you for talking like that. They'll just find another reason (assuming you're working in an area where they need a reason), or manufacture a scenario where you get yourself fired. Is damned simple thing to do, really.

Delighted note for future selves: Cinnamon in chocolate milk: Yes.

Was actually expecting that to be kinda' nasty. Happily very surprised! Notably improvement over the base. Will do again, every time in the future I have both access to cinnamon and an urge for chocolate milk.

Maybe America just has too many people to avoid having at least some angry lunatics or desperate criminals, but the solution to the problems those folks cause is not going to be found in restricting the average, well adjusted person's constitutional rights. Nobody becomes a mugger for shits and giggles.

*shrugs* And implementing actual solutions isn't going to happen. We're entirely aware enough of the country gives less than zero fucks about improving on the conditions (shit mental health care, shit law enforcement system, shit social safety nets, to name some) that are the primary preventable aspect of stuff like the problems in question that nothing is going to happen to better things -- we have an entire fucking political party largely dedicated to making all that worse, and large chunks of the other one happily contributing. Say what you will about gun control et al, but at least there's something of a party divide there instead of all sides largely joining in to ruin everything further.

Though @RK, despite how little it's been mentioned here, due to whatever reason, it's probably an actually good sign a PP clinic getting shot up made the news at all. Those things and similar services have been drawing gunfire and bombings for decades now, and a lot of time it barely even blips the media radar. There's a hell of a lot of fatigue, but that there's even meaningful attention at all this time is almost a good sign regarding public sentiment, imo.

Just about the only ones that really matter to a politician, though :V

Nooooo, you've let the game loose early! EA was already PM'd, now everyone knows! Everyone knows, without even the trivial amount of effort it takes to check the game page!

... alas, the ruse is undone.