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Messages - Frumple

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Yeah, m'mostly just curious where the message was coming from... know the guy in question gets most of his exposure to stuff of that nature via news, but dunno which one this bit is coming out of. Fellow was dead certain having to cover preexisting conditions has been bankrupting insurance companies left, right, and center, with only three left nation wide. How he ended up at that conclusion I've got zero clue.

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Naah, that's fine. Good, even, 'cause it means I can potentially get a shot at them later. I didn't hold the contract, and while a mercenary captain dying under someone else's pay is good, it's not exactly what I'm after. It only counts for me if they die on my payroll :3

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Also, @Frumple, which three companies are they saying aren't shuttered?
Didn't really say. Mentioned blue cross blue shield, but didn't manage to get the other two out before changing subjects.

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Other Games / Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« on: October 27, 2015, 10:35:57 am »
More or less any of the freespawn ones, ermor or lemuria (freaking consuls) in particular. Would pretty much never play them in a multiplayer game (save maybe asphodel as a disciple), but I enjoy 'em in singleplayer.

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I was pretty happy with it, yeah :P

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... so today I was told that the ACA has killed off all but three health insurance companies in the US. Does... does anyone know who has (/when people) started saying that, and how (if) they're supporting the statement?

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That doesn't change the fact that chopping somebody up is simply wrong.
Standing and watching while someone dies is pretty much as bad, though, and would be the equivalent action to just letting nature take its course. And hell, maybe it is the less immoral act, but even if it is the scale is massively different. Doesn't mean you should stand aside as someone's chopping people up, but if you're trying to be even remotely consistent you should be a lot louder about the bigger problem (especially considering it's one that's significantly less of an ethical question, heh.).

You'd also note well a lot of vegetarians abstain from dairy products, heh. Which would be a closer equivalent, imo. Milk and beef is just a titch more akin to each other than wheat and beef. It's not so much a matter of being a component as being a similar sort of thing, and the component parts in the case of a fertilized egg share a hell of a lot more with it than the egg shares with a developed fetus. If you're going to lump the egg in with the fetus, you should probably be lumping the egg's components in there, too.

... also, we could totally get parthenogenesis working if we'd just get off our asses and do it. That never is pretty conditional to the present, heh.

There's a slight difference between a deliberate abortion, and biology just spontaneously deciding that no this isn't going to happen, or gametes dying off in the testes because the fella isn't having sex literally all the time. If the former is murder, the latter is more akin to dying of disease, or in an accident, or of old age. Nobody is really at fault.
The gametes dying off in particular is more akin to someone in front of you starving to death -- a preventable event. You don't even have to be constantly having sex, there, just preserving the material. There's a substantial amount of fault lying in the hands of people doing nothing while others die, particularly when they have a relatively straightforward way of helping. Watching as someone starves in front of you when you have food isn't exactly a blame free action.

And yeah, the extremis in the other direction is completely ridiculous, too.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: October 26, 2015, 10:57:37 pm »
O... kay...

* Orange Wizard boils bacon with impunity.
You could actually probably manage something pretty decent with baking marinated bacon, if you instead went with the baking-covered-in-questionable-liquids direction. Baking bacon is a perfectly acceptable means of making bacon, after all, and I have trouble seeing how submerging it in delicious juices would make things worse.

Boiling is less a bacon thing than it is a more general pork thing, if you're looking to boil it. One of the ways to end up with pulled pork style meat, iirc.

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Other Games / Re: SALES Thread
« on: October 26, 2015, 10:50:28 pm »
... anyone know if any of the current humble mobile bundle games are anything of note?
Update on this, I said to-hell-with-it and nabbed it up. Couple I've messed with so far are fairly decent! Apparently the bundle's a company bundle, and the company in question (Kemco? Something like that) does what amounts to SNES era (J/S)RPGs, and does them relatively competently.

Will say, one of them (legend of ix-something-or-other) has a bit of game mechanic I didn't even realize I needed in my life -- the game has summon spells, of which the summoner can use to call up multiple minions, and the summons themselves grant XP/class points/etc. to the summoner, on top of having their own suite of skills and what seems to be incredibly high targeting priority for the enemy AI. It is precisely as broken as it sounds, and I'm kinda' loving it.

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No, I definitely just made a ridiculous typo and completely inverted the meaning of my post.
To ramble somewhat tangentially, it'd still be possible for that to be calling it too late, though. The logical end-state for the argument from potential that a lot of at-conception positions work from would roughly mean that every bit of reproductive material that's allowed to die* is equivalent to murder. If the biological gruft that exists at conception is enough to count, the stuff it's made from should be included as well -- the differentiation between it and a late-term fetus is significantly less.

Starting from conception also means you've got a hell of a lot bigger problem than artificial abortion -- the vast majority of abortions occur naturally, just as a part of how human biology and reproduction work, and have little to do with medical intervention (save for its lack, anyway). Fun part is a lot of pro-life/anti-choice groups are actually vehemently opposed to research and organizations that work to study and reduce the vagrancies of our shitty, shitty biology on the reproductive process.

*Of which droves do, entirely naturally -- every non-sterile man is a walking genocide, just due to the normal amount of potential fertilization material they allow to die on a daily basis, and women are only somewhat better off. The parody bit is that whole "every sperm is sacred" rigmarole.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: October 26, 2015, 07:14:35 pm »
So the only people who need to worry about it are people who like burnt meat? That's almost laughable.
... or not. Depends on how burnt burnt is. Light char or near-char is pretty common in cooking, from what I've seen. Done right it's part of some freaking tasty stuff, though you sometimes don't eat the charred bits.

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Pictured above: The horror that would be a like like as a pokemon. I can only imagine that version would eat shorts instead of shields :-\

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: October 25, 2015, 10:43:23 pm »
... today I learned that there are 1,225 distinct coins in super mario bros. That. That seems so very cruel.

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Being fair, they do that because the things are her fuel tanks. It's better not to think too hard about humanform battleship biology.

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It's about a fairly amusing and surprisingly unlewd joke owlga posted/renamed the thread about. Involves a critter from undertale, some game I'll never play.

I... maybe wouldn't suggest googling it. There's actually a not unnoticeable amount of straight up porn involving that character, already.

also ninja'd but whatever

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