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And the second stale of the game goes to... bfel? Huh.

E: Also, I didn't even notice elf went AI. Shows how much I've been paying attention

Note FD didn't actually say that they would be productive uses of time and space. Just much more productive. There's an important distinction, there.

... looks good like jumping off a cliff to end a cycle of self-harm sounds like a good idea, I guess. I mean, the cycle's broken? Maybe. And probably in a technical sense instead of some kind of "And now the healing can begin" sort of thing.

But you're also a shattered mush of flesh at the bottom of a cliff.

It is hard enough drinking my two giant glasses of water a day, leaving a sickeningly full feeling in my gullet, but now I am completely lost.

... don't try to drink like that, if it's making you feel like that. Smaller glasses, more often, on top of what you eat.

I just keep a gallon jug of water within arm's reach and take a swallow fairly regularly. Go through about half a gallon in a day if m'on top of things, which is roughly where you need to be.

Says the guy with the Ronald McDonald avatar.

Misk's avatar isn't exactly ronald

Check some videos, would be my suggestion. There's full playthroughs flapping around youtube at this point (which doesn't take long at all -- probably less than 30 minutes if you're actually capable of finishing the game), and plenty of folks dipping their feet into the game (and getting pasted across the screen ). Still screenshots are very much not going to give an appropriate feel for what this game is like.

Tried cheating, just to see if things got better further in the game.

Instead found out there's an inventory limit and rooms that are filled with apparently unpierceable darkness (including extra light sources!). Also found out that non-lethal weapons* are consistently miserable to use and make resting a terrible proposition you're regularly forced in to because you can't goddamn kill anything and they wake back up when you rest. Why the hell is non-lethal a thing? Why can't I fucking strangle all the crap I'm knocking out so it stays dead?** All sorts of other fairly violent irritations. Did you know sleeping both can silently cause more creatures to spawn on the floor you're on, and trigger overt events like undead attacks? Because it can!

This is a game that hates the player, and not in a fun way. M'done trying, now. Good luck, other people. Good gods that was unpleasant.

*Which, hey, cheat character made it dungeon level 8 or so before I gave up and found zero lethal weapons. Also all of one piece of armor (that didn't actually add armor -- hiking boots, +1 speed, more noise, trap avoidance penalty). No overtly offensive wands (disease one was the closest it got, and without +mp items or the infinite food I gave myself it would have been pretty much impossible to actually use it for anything). Basically some shitty consumables, something like half of which hurt me, a couple of wands I couldn't use, and two clubs. Shitty, shitty clubs that took shenanigans and significant annoyance to kill anything with, because non-lethal says "Go to hell."

**Hell, I'd be content with being able to pick the damned unconscious bastards up and put them down somewhere else. At least that way I could stick them all behind a door and shut it, or better yet throw them into deep water or a lava pit to kill the buggers. Instead, you can't even displace the little shits out of the room or hallway you knock them out in.