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i mean, c'mon, finding pornography stashed under a dresser or something is like a rite of passage

It used to be, I guess. Less so these days. Harder to find people with hardcopy porn. More "stashed in an oddly named folder" in the modern era.

Crummy right of passage, though. I didn't find porn in magazine form until years after I ran into it on the internet and in library books _{(go to hell, anthony, and take your goddamn firefly with you)}.

i mean even the idea of saving porn to your computer sort of baffles me
its not hard to just, yknow, look stuff up.

It's not, but it's also significantly more risky than just having stuff on your comp, in general. The online stuff often runs some pretty skeezy website code, and not in the lewd sense. Plus what's on them, y'know, changes, has the possibility of getting hacked, etc. Something on your computer is notably less likely to have any of that happen -- there's an initial risk (that's still less, from everything I've noticed) in the acquisition, but after that you're golden.

And for folks with weaker computers, a lot of the online stuff is... poorly optimized, even if you have adblock et al running. It's an issue, even discounting bandwidth et al. S'other stuff going on there, too. Plenty of reasons to have metaphorical hard copies instead of relying on streaming sites or whatev'.

Not just a porn thing, as per shonus's note. Online media in general has its problems, and all but a few streaming sites are of questionable reliability. Generally easier access, but that's about its one competitive advantage. Is gigantic one, obviously, that offsets the issues for many people, but it's still about the only one.

While many of those in school dream of our lives when out of it, I don't doubt.

I'unno, I run into folks pretty often that are aware enough to realize that life outside of school is broadly speaking comparatively shit -- they've seen their parents, they know the folks that dropped out or went straight into the workforce, etc. More stressors, less free time, no significant uptick it cohort maturity (including your own, but now you get to play charades that it's different :V), shortly in the future a body that's breaking down instead of building up. They don't so much dream of life outside school as dread it. Some idealize it, I guess, especially when much younger, but some days it seems like it's less than you'd think.

Quote from: Rolan7 on October 12, 2015, 11:35:56 am

And by converting flammable O2 into CO2, you're decreasing the risk of wildfires!

We could literally cut down on the chances of forest fires by burning down forests.

That'd still leave a lot of room for wildfires, though. Better to chop down every last plant in cali and pave it over with concrete. Mind you, that'd probably lead to melting concrete in places, but slowly boiling infrastructure is the price you pay to ensure no more fires.

And that's assuming it all stayed in cali, as opposed to flapping off over the ocean or hitching a ride on air currents off to some other state. Much of it would probably bugger off to somewhere else before it came back down, so realistically it would probably be even less than that in terms of benefit.

Y... you do realize those laws still allow for a tremendous amount of abuse, up to and including systematic physical harm and the rape of your slaves, right? Especially for non-hebrew slaves. And there's a few others in the OT that don't paint even nearly so moderating a picture (which is damning those ones with faint praise, as they still paint a pretty horrible one).

... would you happen to have any historical or archaeological support for the position, offhand? Or is it just your interpretation of the biblical texts?

Where does it say he was a rapist? Back then it was not uncommon for men to have multiple wives.
[16:3] So, after Abram had lived ten years in the land of Canaan, Sarai, Abram's wife, took Hagar the Egyptian, her slave-girl, and gave her to her husband Abram as a wife.

Let me shift that emphasis for you. Rape's a pretty straightforward thing involving lack of consent. There was no consent involved here. Cause, y'know, slavery.

Where dies it say Sarah tried to kill Hagar?

Pregnant woman, thrown out, found in desert. I guess sarai "only" threw hagar out to die of exposure? I'd still be pretty willing to call that attempted murder, m'self.

Slaves were not anything like what happened in America before the civil war. They were more comparable to servants. They were not bought or sold, rather, they often gave themselves or their children into servitude so they could eat. The masters were not (usually) cruel or inhumane.

Let's... not try to whitewash slavery with the exact same rhetoric slave owners used, yes? Because those were the exact same lines stateside slave owners used to try to whitewash slavery.

Also, yeah, sex slavery, being gifted to your husband to be knocked up, and then being thrown out into the desert (most likely to die) is pretty inhumane by most reasonable standards, I'd say. Maybe the mythical good slaveowner was more common back then, who the zog knows. Abraham and family most definitely wasn't an example of them.

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... just.. look. If you want to say these monsters were messengers of god, or somehow favored by the divine, or... whatever. Okay. I won't agree, and I'll definitely question your willingness to put human filth on a pedestal or consider them anything even remotely resembling role models, but largely m'pretty willing to say "have at it." But call a horse a horse. These were not good people. It takes a god to have their actions be anything resembling excusable.