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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: October 06, 2015, 12:00:41 pm »
... I have now tried almond milk. It...

... it is not milk. Also weirdly tasty. But pretty much entirely unlike milk. Taste, texture, aftertaste, all wrong. Even the color is slightly off. But. Also good. Now to eat this bowl of cereal and see what the stuff does to my digestive system.

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General Discussion / Re: European Union thread
« on: October 06, 2015, 11:40:21 am »
... it's a business site. It's doing business.

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Because "gun rights" is significantly snappier than "right to bear firearms".

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General Discussion / Re: European Union thread
« on: October 06, 2015, 11:28:47 am »
... couldn't read that article (site in question is apparently nonfunctional without javascript, and bugger loading a news site with javascript running), but looking at the thing elsewhere, it... looks like there's at least two (seemingly wildly) different safe harbor concepts in regards to the internet? And this seems to primarily concern some legal stuff regarding data transfer across the atlantic (particularly in regards to the state's ongoing fornication of privacy concerns), not... what safe harbor normally means when talking about the internet. Which means if I'm reading this stuff right, I no longer have reason to reflexively throw invectives to the east :P

Also sounds a lot like the courts just delivered a fairly significant amount of economic pain to a lot of european tech reliant companies, from what I could parse, assuming it all sticks and whatnot. Which is kinda' interesting?

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General Discussion / Re: European Union thread
« on: October 06, 2015, 10:42:02 am »
There probably are some modifications that I would be willing to agree on being harmless. I just feel that that classification should only be made by cynical and pessimistic biologists, who look at everything from a worst case scenario perspective. It should never be decided by economic interest.
You definitely don't want the cynical pessimist biologists, then. They tend to be significantly easier to buy off, heh. Probably would rather have some variation of idealist, instead. Much less likely to have given up on ethical action or be easily swayed by moolah.

... though point of order on the evolution thing, it's not a matter of years, it's a matter of generations. And for species with shorter life cycles (like, say, bacteria, many plants, lots of insects, etc., etc., etc.) you can see pretty drastic changes in a human lifespan.* Gene dispersal in the geographic sense, on the other hand, is entirely variable based on the species in question. Plant and plant related stuff, though, are often really good at spreading around, so it can be very easy for a natural local mutation to become very not local in very short order. There's a reason we have close to unkillable kudzu terrorizing chunks of the US south-east, heh.

*This is pretty much the explicit reason a lot of our evolution research has been done with flies and whatnot, as you're probably aware.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: October 06, 2015, 09:58:53 am »
Should really change that prussia to purrssia, though.

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General Discussion / Re: European Union thread
« on: October 06, 2015, 09:44:06 am »
Monsanto (and to be fair, many others, it's just that everyone knows Monsanto) cannot guarantuee that this will not happen.
... reality guarantees that guarantee cannot happen. It doesn't take GM products to have that sort of mutation occur. Makes it more likely and/or more rapid, I guess? But it's not like existent less!GM crops are some kind of weird indefinitely static... thing. They also change, the bacteria involve change, etc., etc., etc. Your profs appear to be complaining about a process that already exists and that GM is not introducing, which makes it kinda' weird to be focusing their tirade against GM.

... beyond that, again, there's a lot more to GM than the pesticide related stuff. If folks are really going to get in a panic about that, just legislate specifically against that and leave all the other good stuff be instead of just blanket condemning the lot of it.

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There are some parts about the old testament that could not have come from anybody but God (creation for example) which means that God must have spoken to the writer about it.
... no? Those parts could have come from anybody, and says nothing about the writer(s) except they wrote it. We make creation stories and fantastic tales literally for fun, and have since pretty much as far back as we can trace. Fiction is a thing, and it doesn't require a god speaking to someone to make it.

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Other Games / Re: Elona
« on: October 06, 2015, 09:02:54 am »
Looks like you can get it here, assuming 1.50 is the newest version (which it seems to be, but I googled for all of like five seconds so it's entirely possible it's not!). After you start the game, it'll give a prompt regarding which language you want to play in.

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Pretty much, yeah. S'always open to the possibility something screwed up, providing someone can provide applicable evidence for it. And every once in a while, someone does, from what I can recall. Not much major in recent times, but recent times are recent and short and there's a fair amount of science that happened before it.

Lot of times it's not so much outright disproving as refinement and improvement, but it amounts to about the same thing. Science has gotten fundamental things wrong often enough in the past most of it is self-aware enough to realize we've probably got it wrong now, somehow, and we'll likely get it wrong again in the future. Just less so. Is a lot of the beauty of it, really.

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Other Games / Re: Videogame Music V3
« on: October 06, 2015, 12:04:10 am »
Can give a cheerful heads up that much of Dungeon Fighter Online's music is pretty bloody good. The game is also f2p, and the entire soundtrack is stored as .oggs and easily accessible after you've downloaded the thing :V

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Of course modern science is wrong? To a fair degree, anyway. It's just the least wrong we have at the moment. Point of science is largely not to be right, but to be as little wrong as possible, given existent limitations.

Still, should try the vedas and whatnot. They got some neat stuff in 'em about zappy bits, iirc.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: October 05, 2015, 11:53:35 pm »
Not so much indignation as incomprehension and frustration* mixed with a side of just world fallacy,** in my experience. S'been fairly common for folks to become more tractable when you can address those bits to some degree. Been dealing with older folks whose brains are starting to slip away for a bit now, and it's a behavior pattern expressed with unfortunately increasing frequency.

Really, you could compare it to threat displays by a lot of animals, especially prey animals. It's not so much anger or self-righteousness, exactly, as it is poorly processing fears translating into anger displays.

*Both with their own incomprehension and the situation they're in.
**Things are supposed to work a certain way, and when it doesn't, cognitive BSOD followed by anger reactions because a lot of people have trouble figuring out what to do besides start lashing out until something fixes the situation.

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So at point am I good enough to be able to play with people and not expect to get yelled at for being a newbie?
Never.

Remember the mute feature is your friend. Basically your best friend, if you're wading into pubs. There's no point short of maybe the absolute highest echelons of the game where you're not going to have at least some people shitting on you for whatever reason every few games (at more or less a minimum). Mute fast, mute hard, mute early. You don't have to listen, and there is no escape (short of only playing premades, anyway). Don't let it stop you, just mute anyone and everyone that starts to shit talk.

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General Discussion / Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« on: October 05, 2015, 10:33:27 pm »
... checking to see if that was a different translation of Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer, I can tentatively see what you may mean by the characters, just from reading the description. "Mysterious" red-eyed, blue haired girl, rei in a mecha series? Something about that seems somehow Rei familiar. I'm not quite sure what REI it is :V

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