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General Discussion / Re: Sheb's European Megathread: Remove Feta!
« on: September 21, 2015, 01:14:43 pm »
Y'know, thinking on it, this could almost be seen as a political coup. If this is what cameron is known and remembered for in the immediate memory, it would likely be a step up for the blighter. As with goats, it only takes one pig to largely erase most other actions vis a vis public recollection. And everyone else can just insinuate to people he was a necrophiliac pig-fetishist, cheerfully deflecting little facts like that they had previously supported the guy.

Hell, it's already half looking like people are forgetting what caused the claims was a billionaire funder not getting enough kickbacks for their taste -- one lovely and blatant bit of corruption, nicely redirected towards base moral approbation. If it's not just neurotic political backbiting, it would almost be admirably canny. Would even explain why cameron doesn't seem to be fighting the accusations too hard, ha.

Guess the real question is what's sneaking through the legislature or whatev' at the moment. Be a good time to get something in under the radar.

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General Discussion / Re: Sheb's European Megathread: Remove Feta!
« on: September 21, 2015, 12:11:49 pm »
The purpose of this thread now, the thing we cannot possibly ignore, is that David Cameron fucked a pig's head.
Dead pig. Don't forget that. Probably the best thing about it is it's almost certainly not illegal. I think the most wonderfully succinct line on the subject I've seen is this:
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The mouth of a dead pig is a legal no man's land.

Wasn't really a turn-on thing, though... probably, anyway. It's being claimed as frat-style hazing bullshit, back when the guy was in college. Second best thing is that due to how the UK's laws on defamation and whatnot are setup, there's almost certainly photo evidence :V

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So I'm now betting two death gems I'll be the first one to die. Any takers?

Simple betting rules, you promise gems to the pot, pot's split between whichever lot gets it right. No odds or anything.

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Play With Your Buddies / Re: Let's Play Wayfar
« on: September 20, 2015, 08:55:47 pm »
Frog sounds like an upstanding joint, in an archaic speaking anthropomorphic way.

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Other Games / Re: League of Legends - Patch 5.1 - Open the Gates
« on: September 20, 2015, 07:08:10 pm »
... it's funny you should say that, considering what spawned the whole AoS thing to begin with. S'actually a few maps over the years that have played with having various RTS components in addition to the standard hero gameplay, so there's apparently some degree of demand for styles of play with greater RTS-style involvement. It can be pretty fun to play starcraft vs. some number of super units, heh.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: September 20, 2015, 06:54:35 pm »
Nah, they're contact shot, not actually fired over a distance. No ballistics involved, just sperm digestion-inhibiting pile driving. Unless they miss or it passes through or somethin', I'unno.

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Other Games / Re: League of Legends - Patch 5.1 - Open the Gates
« on: September 20, 2015, 06:50:15 pm »
Clearly, the end result of this will be the loading screen firing up an instance of DF playing at 5-10x speed on a random embark, with the LoL interaction being sending military patrols out onto the LoL map and bringing back gold and XP as food and booze. Items will be translated into pets, to be trained as war (lane) or hunting (jungle) beasts and sent back out, or kept untrained to increase dwarf-side infrastructure. The ultimate will entail infecting a dwarf with vampirism, a were syndrome, or necromancy capability every minute or so, then letting you decide what to do with it.

Victory will entail managing a delicate balance between maintaining your fortress side infrastructure to enable you to send more and better equipped patrols, making sure your lanes and allies are supported by your excursions, and fending off enemy attacks represented as invasions (themed megabeasts for enemy heroes, plain goblin, etc., ones for lane minions that reach whatever your exit point is). Perhaps one of your talents would allow you to dig holes to various parts of the LoL side map from the DF side, allowing allies to rapidly traverse the main map via glorious ASCII transport.

... dunno 'bout you, but I'm okay with this. This seems like a good end goal. They should get right on that.

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General Discussion / Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« on: September 20, 2015, 06:25:59 pm »
... to be fair to monster musume, at least basing it off the manga, I could actually see a scenario where rating it a 7.5/10 would be appropriate. Namely, relative to other works in its niche.

Yes, it's fanservice pandering harem drivel, and objectively pretty sub-par, but as fanservice pandering harem drivel goes, it's arguably one of the higher quality examples of it. Characters may be relatively derivative, but they're not entirely flat (even including the male!), there's some degree of character development, and character interactions aren't entirely static, the world-building isn't completely ignored (even if it by and large is drawing from porn scenarios, as befits its roots) and impacts the plot meaningfully (to the extent there is a plot in this genre of media, anyway), and the actual point of the work, the titillation, is pretty clean in terms of quality (if not content, ha) and handled comparatively tastefully and organically compared to a lot of the material in the field. It's not actually something you can charitably call "a bog standard by-the-books harem anime that just happens to have monster girls in it". Unless you haven't actually been exposed to many by-the-books harem animes, I guess.

As its particular sort of very soft softcore porn goes, I could see rating it a 6 or 7 on a ten point scale. It's not even remotely innovative or impressive, but it does what it's intending to do pretty competently, particularly relative to its compatriots. Damning with faint praise it may be, but the thing actually has a fair degree of merit. Not enough to save it from being drivel, but enough to elevate it close to the greatest heights drivel achieves. It would just deserve a three or four point knockoff if you were going to compare it to most anything outside its particular niche, heh.

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Ah. Well, if it's not the ones mentioned on the site (Joyce or Cipha Sounds), then it may just be some sample. Air horn's an air horn, you can mostly get the same sound out of two different horns, heh.

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I'm surprised no one has said "sheeple" in this thread yet.
Loud Whispers did, actually. Well, now twice. One more time and you invoke sheepman viagra, LW.

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Ah. Seen this, yet? Site's a little funky to access, apparently, so have a transcript:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Tl;dr version seems to be "Popularized in the early 90s, building off a tradition started in the '70s."

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Example of the sample?

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I guess we're done with the OP, so continuing on to other fun is... might as well? I'unno. Something like that.
Well, let me play devil's advocate here. A very common thing protestants like to say is that if you honestly pray to Jesus with an open heart, he'll hear and answer you.

That's a verifiable claim.

Have you ever tested it? Has the "typical atheist" ever tested it? Or have they simply dismissed it as something not worth testing because their beliefs are set and therefore don't require vetting, just like the person who doesn't bother going on an archeological dig because their beliefs in dinosaurs is set?
At least from what I've experienced, testing it -- repeatedly, over and over and over -- is exactly what leads to a lot of "typical atheists", especially those that are raised in a religious household. They pray honestly, and worship fervently, and hold open hearts as wide as the clear blue sky and get zilch. Years upon years of no supporting evidence tends to eventually lead to abandonment of the proposition.

... meanwhile, you occasionally get archaeological digs in high school and whatnot, that trivially and generally repeatedly produce returns. I've actually got a giant sloth tooth hanging around somewhere or another that's many millennium old (tested with me involved in the process and everything), heh, and we spent a bit in a field trip or two digging up extinct fish imprinted rocks and junk. Neat stuff. Something you can actually whack someone with.

Beyond that, as grak alludes to, it's not actually a verifiable claim. It looks like one, but what counts as praying honestly or with an open heart has no quantifiable or measurable benchmark, which is where the prayer claim fails on verifiability. You can't actually check to see if the experiment was performed correctly, and you have no consistent control group. Fossil dig, you can set your benchmark -- geological strata, geographic region, etc. Physical, quantifiable, ones. -- and test it. You've also got consistent measures and methodology that are pretty much guaranteed to produce results, given sufficient effort, where "sufficient effort" actually has a number (depth, area covered, number of digs, etc.) that can be assigned to it and checked against. Honesty, open heart... the best we could do with that is maybe brain scans or somethin', and while I do believe we've tried stuff like that before, I don't recall it giving any results that back up the claim in question. And people have spent literally decades of their lives trying pretty much everything to get return from prayer and got either nothing or nothing distinguishable from nothing.

... that said, yeah, I'm one of the ones that would agree that faith is a pretty big deal. It's just that there is a substantial difference between belief in propositions that are verifiable (in a communicable and consistent way) and those that, well. Aren't. And a great deal of spiritual propositions are unverifiable at best, incommunicable and/or inconsistent at worst, assuming they're not just outright false.

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You're not supposed to look for signs, you're just meant to let it happen so people can complain about toxic masculinity in our society.
No, no, get it right. You're supposed to reduce education funding and slash school support staff, do everything you can to sabotage the state of mental health care in the nation, and make sure people from backgrounds with an increased risk of inculcating violence are in as bad a situation as you can manage. The point is the make looking for signs impossible, and then send in the jackbooted thugs heavily militarized police to harass kids that haven't actually done anything. That way you both get wring your hands about the degenerate youth and do something both highly visible and counterproductive, while simultaneously making sure the police continue to not do their jobs, generating the perfect win-win-win situation!

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... you linked breitbart as a source, mate. You don't get to say anything about bullshit being pushed by the media. Thanks for the concern, but you kinda' undermined your entire sorta'-point about not getting taken in by media shills with that one :-\

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