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... seeing about watching an LP of rune factory (3, in this case). The... the person is doing voice acting. For all the text. It's, uh. Not. Entirely terrible? But. Y... yeah.

... you forgot to add "that turns submissive at the drop of a hat" to that "violent girl". The dere side of the tsun. It's a fantasy escape from assertive women because it's what amounts to a parody of one, that is in fact inevitably conquered (and what amounts to rendered powerless) by the main character. It's pretty rare from what I've seen of anime of that sort (arguably too much ) that the "assertive" female characters don't stop being so under fairly predictable circumstances.

As neo notes, it usually comes off more as people lashing out than people assured of themselves and acting towards their interests.

... the bless would give them 8 extra HP, and 10% regen. Which would mean they might get 2 hp per turn regen :V

The personal regen would give 20% total, which would be... 3 hp regen. Maybe 4 depending on the rounding. Guess I can test to see if that's actually enough to offset the health damage in that scenario.

Stellar cascade spam was one of the ideas behind the basic "use communion" thing, yeah, but... invincible, or even terribly substantial benefit, isn't something I'm expecting out of it. There's a lot of death access out there, at least one nation that can do the same thing, and more than one that can probably just blow up my base 10 hp casters, 7 point boost from an N bless or not. Plus the problems involved in surviving until I reach evo 5, and keeping those squishy mages alive, especially with an assassin nation on the map and plenty of folks that have fliers that can probably screw over anything I put on the defense.

You said invincible! Still very, very vincible. Also yeah, in that scenario I'd be going with the great mother, horned one, or the lord of the forest -- better paths, stronger dominions, better cost on adding some diversity. Plus I just don't like the dragon pretenders

... still, thanks for the reminder about the fatigue thing. I'll have to do some testing on that, see if I can get anything from it.

E: Though in testing, the regen doesn't actually mitigate the damage with those numbers. Slows it down, but especially once the script ends they start losing like a fifth of their HP per turn. Plenty to get a lot off, but...

Will have to try some more with more slaves, less masters. Or just toss the regen thing entirely, heh.

Attacker will (try to) route first, yeah, barring a few oddities (Looking at you, VotD). 1k HP isn't actually that much -- only takes a hundred base humans (or 34 formorians ) to match it, and every one past that is another increase to the threshold -- so a 1k hp SC getting dropped probably won't cause a larger army to route, if for some reason you're fielding them both in the same battle. If it actually does have a supporting army, though, your counter tactics can start trickling out the window.

... that said, if you've reached the point in the game that you're actually using multiple wishes to get one of the elemental royalty up to 1k+ health, I, uh. Think you have larger strategic decision making problems to worry about than how to build a freakishly overpriced and inefficient SC :V

Like how to stop yourself from doing that. Don't do that. It's silly.

Unless it being silly is the point, I guess. Or you're playing a high site, possibly modded game that is drowning you in so many gems you literally can't spend them all, and so freakishly wasteful things for marginal gains is the name of the game.

... I could probably agree that the original mortal kombat is one of the worst aged games that were actually well known*, really. Its controls and graphics and whatnot were mostly pretty terrible even at the time of the creation -- about its only real claim to fame was the fatalities. And I guess some of the character design.

But in general it was just kinda' bad, and only well received because there wasn't much good around (especially on its system) and it was edgier than most other games on the market.

Can't really comment much on most of the other ones. Only early metroid I've played was Super, which has aged just fine. Tomb Raider and RE were too shit for me to get in to even when they came out, both largely due to absolutely horrid controls. Starfox is still surprisingly playable, though the bits of Starfox 2 that made it out are noticeably better constructed, mechanics wise. The rest I either don't remember well enough to comment on (Golden Eye), or never played (the rest).

Would say that list is bupkis, though. If all they can come up with is ten names that most people will actually recognize, they're not even remotely trying to find games that did not age with grace.

*This is a major caveat, though. There's a lot of less well known games out there that have aged like complete crap, any dozen of them blowing that list out of the water.

Heh. Test games... watching those formorians at work is... depressing. I send in a party of seventy something units and my pretender against an indie province, they do so at a different one with four formorians and twenty some spearmen. I lose a half dozen units, they lose... one spearman. Heeheehoho. _{so very screwed >_<}

... also, first time I've really tested misfortune scales. Even... even Misfortune 1 is kinda' intensely painful. Capital's already been hit with five bad events and the first year isn't even done yet, and my other provinces are starting to get crapped on, too. Looks like I may be reconsidering scales in the near future :V

E: And yeah, astral on those pike critters would probably be a terrible idea. Honestly, I wouldn't be trying to build a bless for that nation at all, except maybe some E for the casters -- their flying sacred guys are kinda' junk, and my first thought is that the only thing that would really make them approach competative would be taking advantage of the stormpower and darkvision... somehow (and considering all the formorians are 50% darkvision, probably not even that would manage).

I mean, they're flying, yes, and they're sacred, yes, but they're human/birdman and squishy with average combat stats (on top of crap defense) in a game where... most everything that's a legitimate threat (sorry, other human/hoburg nations. Those of us without formorian bruisers are in for a mess ) isn't going to be either, average combat stats isn't going to cut it, and sub-par defense is how you fall over dead to 20+ strength formorians.

I don't think any of the defensive blesses are going to make enough of a difference, for any of the human/hoburg level sacreds. Go offensive if you go for major bless at all. The pike guys are at least as cheap as mine and also recruit anywhere, so you might even consider a major blood just so you at least get something from them as they die in droves -- and the strength buff might help some vs. those prot 18 formorians in particular, which are copious and plentiful. Fire might indeed be a good option for the extra repel, as mentioned (not that it's going to help that much -- most of the formorian access nations have troops with long spears, which means the pike length is only going to help so much) and extra damage.

S'plenty of online games being ran, if all you want is to go up against a human instead of a computer.

I like the nearly ubiquitous skelliespam potential fhuamdar has, m'self, as well as the sacred giant (if that wasn't obvious enough by now :V), heh. Those 18 prot critters are pretty tasty, too. Also potential for some nasty battlefield spells in those randoms. Not sure what to think about the sacred arbalester, though...