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General Discussion / Re: 9/11 thread
« on: September 11, 2015, 11:04:44 pm »
Why can't this just be a memorial?
Not replying or not, the question's been bugging for a bit. Largely, I think I've figured out an answer. Probably not the only one, or the best, but one.

It can't just be a memorial because we have a memorial. And it's in New York. Where it should be. Grief, respect and appreciation for sacrifice -- these are things that have to be felt, processed, and then let go, to be addressed and remembered later when needed, not like clockwork. You build your monuments, you observe your ceremonies, you express your grief and rage and so on as needed and appropriately (and we failed miserably on the appropriately part, but that's neither here nor there). And then you move on. You don't obsess on it for over a decade.

What we as a nation have been doing since a few short years after the event have not been memorials, have not been remembrances. It's been a national neurosis, played upon and viciously exploited by politicians and ideologues, at the expense and further exploitation of those that died during the attacks, the thousands of americans that died after because of our retaliations, and the hundreds of thousands of non-americans that have died because of our actions. For various reasons, but you can damn sure better believe few to none of them have been doing it for those lost, their families, and those that worked in the aftermath.

It's about more than a memorial because more than that is what much of the country is using it as, because it's unhealthy as hell, and because it's bloody close to impossible to call something "just" a memorial when it's ultimately drenched in a body count that's estimated to be over a million and rising.

... I'd actually agree that it'd be about as good as it could get if today had become just been a memorial, just a moment of respect for those that died and those that worked towards recovery. Would still consider it damnably strange to be observed on a national level, but that would still be better than what we've been doing. That it's not is part of the reason the unending reminder gets under my skin just about every time it comes up. It'd be damned desirable if this day stopped being politicized. And that's not going to happen until the dead are left to lay instead of dug up yet again. Or most of us that actually remember the attack finally die, I guess.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you absolutely terrified today
« on: September 11, 2015, 10:12:28 pm »
It's about dying from the feet up. Y'know, losing sensation from the extremities and it working its way inward then upward.

... if it makes you feel any better, siru, that's actually how a fair amount of deaths work. You lose sensation in the outer bits first, and then it works its way in before you die.

Which probably doesn't make you feel any better but eh.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: September 11, 2015, 09:42:25 pm »
Eat something, EB?

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Yeah, good luck. Keep yourself healthy and sane, and don't forget to use what resources you'll have available to make sure you're equipped for life after discharge. Lotta' soldiers find it's not the military life that ends up being the major problem, it's what comes after, so keep an eye on that. It's something you'll need to stay on top of, as much or even more than the military life itself.

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But the astral bless sounds good.  I... kinda forgot about it since so few people ever talk about using it.  Usually I think of astral as a priest-mage bless for nations that are playing the really really long game and want to boost everything with magic rings.
*waggles hand* From what I understand (which is probably rusty at this point, and wasn't terribly impressive to begin with :P), it's pretty rare that you have a sacred troop that astral will help survivability more than water would (with both fitting in a broadly similar defensive niche, and ignoring the other benefits of a water bless), which is mostly why you don't see it mentioned very often. Something with a lingering effect like a poison could be one of the rare things that might actually be able to get equal/more use out of astral.

... would probably still recommend water over it, though.

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General Discussion / Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« on: September 11, 2015, 08:21:22 pm »
Kinda' like imagining the star wars movies instead chronicled the Thrawn trilogy :V

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... didn't realize you were actually being serious, Isp, or recognize the context. Hadn't noticed some of the rightwing crazies were trying harder than normal to shit on women and parents :-\

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: September 11, 2015, 08:06:42 pm »
... dude was walkin', A. Not drivin'.

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...

You know. I hadn't noticed. But it's apparently looking fairly likely (Though worth note, I haven't done much but run into someone else talking about the subject and decided to skim over the article they used. May be problems with that one, ha.) we're going to have another shutdown within the next month or two. Budgeting issues again, the iran deal, and apparently some lackwits willing to bring the entire system to a halt to defund Planned Parenthood (over a questionable issue the program in question isn't even receiving federal funds for). Plus some other stuff.

That's... just great. Bloody hell. Here we go again.

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... nature bless actually would probably not help much. They're humans, which means their HP is going to be pretty cruddy and a regen bless close to useless. Better would probably be astral (twist fate, to increase the odds of at least having a turn alive near the enemy front line) or water (getting to the enemy faster, increased defense to maybe survive longer), methinks.

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A good one would involve a chicken and three crates of whiskey, not sudden crane death.
Well. It can involve sudden crane death, so long as it's the crane that's dying. Presumably the chicken ate it, the ravenous little dinosaur bastards.

e:VVV That's the joke, yes. Bird crane not giant metal crane.

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Pretty sure from the christian perspective it's the exact opposite from a consolation, since that state largely entails damnation to the religion, with saving people from that being one of the core tenants. So not only is it a tragedy, it's a failure from a spiritual perspective in allowing the unsaved to die.

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General Discussion / Re: 9/11 thread
« on: September 11, 2015, 04:42:45 pm »
Also fuck I have to deal with more of this shit in the future because you guys coudn't end it despite alot of money, troops, and allies being sent in? A bit deamening and of course I never stated this but come on I really..Idk. Anyways she dodged the question a bit.
Hahaha, yeah, welcome to our generation(s) mate. The ones before fucked a lot of things up and now we get to deal with it :V

Bonus points is the ones that complain we're degenerates for getting stuffed with their screwups. It's good stuff!

Also yeah, there's not really a "something decent" in the last decade and change of buggerup. About the only rousing speeches to be had are bald-faced lies. Most everything honest is either ambiguous as the blazes or "Welp. We screwed up. Y'all are just a leeeeetle buggered. Good luck!"

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General Discussion / Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« on: September 11, 2015, 03:49:04 pm »
Presumably for similar reasons we don't casually skin off bits of people despite it eventually getting better with little to no substantial consequence. A cavalier attitude in the face of suffering's pretty uncool. S'pretty possible that they, if the corpse they found earlier was any indication, may have been overstating the ubiquity of resurrection in the setting, too.

You'll also note that the elf was pretty worried about the healing bit afterwards (if somewhat distracted, which is kinda' understandable given what she's going through), and neither the poisoned one nor their friend were exactly happy. Honestly, both armor dude and the dunobo are showing pretty much every sign of being somewhat significantly insane compared to, well. Everyone in that world.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: September 11, 2015, 03:33:36 pm »
Yeah, it would have been nice if someone -- anyone -- had said that when I was about 10 or 12 or so :V

Extra points from being poor enough to not really afford good backpacks, so buttpack is just about the only option :P

Though not having 40-50 lbs of books to be toting around would have helped, too. Praise be for our next generations when goddamn textbooks are phased out for digital mediums. So much lighter ;_;

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