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... having done some googling to decipher what the zog you were saying, isn't today always the day they have the mackinac bridge walk up there? First day of september, walk's an annual thing on labor day. Been going on since 1958. Over fifty years.

Aunt Mariah's buggered and the pub's on fire. That's about it.

... it's a 25% random, not a .04% :V The daktyls only need D1 to start forging staves -- master smith bumps up it up enough. The .04% is only if you want them to cast it natively, which... yeah, I wouldn't be holding out for that. I didn't even notice they had 110%, ha.

The research is pretty troublesome, yeah, though you only need cons 4 to start staff forging. For what it's worth, your starting army can do some pretty good work -- the spectrals tear up most UW PD, from what I've seen, with about the only holdout being amber provinces -- and keep things rolling until you've got what you need to jumpstart that part of your army layout. Kept for posterity: In which Frumple's memory leads to silly statements.

... though actually checking things, now I'm wondering why I thought you needed skull staves or D2. The base freespawn summoner summon is only D1, and once you have the one D1 smith, you can have it summon revenants (which is only ench 3) to summon more ephors, if you actually have the surplus of gems to bring in more spectre callers. Otherwise it's just setting the smith to summon more ephors. So all you need is a (slightly more than) 25% random to start off your undead production. Everything else is gravy. Which innit too bad, really. Conceivably it starts at turn two or three, if your pretender has no D and you alchemize everything into death. And luck out on your first daktyl being one of the 1/4th D randoms.

So, double checking things, I'd probably argue you don't need an awake SC* pretender for early game expansion (though you likely still want one, because while taking one/turn is nice, taking two/turn is better), so long as your start army avoids priest provinces (and maybe if it doesn't, if you send along a prophet), you don't need the SC to summon ephors -- daktyls manage that just fine, if the RNG isn't being a complete jackass -- you don't need your pretender to do sitesearching (daktyls, again, should manage, and are your best native sitesearchers anyway). The bless is a definite thing, but you're dealing with a domkill nation so you'll probably tank your scales (except magic and luck, the latter of which you'll probably end up relying on for income) anyway, so you've got what you need, there.

*Which... looking at it, your cheapest chassis can probably manage that easily enough, if you're okay with a water/astral bless (actually pretty decent for your ethereal sacreds!). W9S9 awake floating brain, 7 dominion, 2 Turmoil 3 Sloth 3 Cold 3 Death 3 Luck 2 Magic? Cash income will be shite, but that's what the ephors are for.

... you wouldn't have a guess for how old "old" is, would you?

*opens screenshots*

*blasted in the face with windows 95*

D:

... good luck and best wishes and all that, but woah that is a nostalgia trip/induced flashback in the worst (?) sort of way. It's the demo disks all over again DX

Won't... won't try it, 'cause Super Meat Boy style games are anti-enjoyment for my poor twitchless hands, but just wanted to say that. That and good luck et al.

One intended to incentivized regular custom. Come here six days, seventh comes free, that sort of thing. Meant for habitual customers rather than flash sale type stuff. Is reward for brand loyalty. Good psych trick from marketing, heh.

See it in a lot of places, actually. Is pretty common, usually a reward program type of thing.

And ninja'd, but eh.

... from what I recall from discussion on the subject, the article kinda' overstates things, at least regarding the legal aspect. Problem seems to be primarily corruption rather than something wrong with the laws. When things actually work like they're supposed to, the second-hit folks get nailed with murder charges (which, y'know, can come with the death penalty). When they don't, well...

Other side of it seems to be that to a degree it's a problem that china finds to be most economical to just... let go. Letting people get away with the occasional murder costs the state less than preventing it, and so that's what happens. Murder trial costs more than a funeral

Also not exactly a strictly chinese issue. Same sort of behavior pops up anywhere where similar incentives exist -- we've seen roughly same thing coming out of the US police force, ferex, because it's easier for some precincts to deal with a dead person than someone alive and suing. Every so often you get to hear about the cops sitting around or holding off calling/preventing medical help, letting someone bleed out, just to avoid the bureaucratic issues involved with a living person. That kind of "social malignancy" is fairly universal, heh. China's just get several metric fucktons of people, so it's a bit more visible.