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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: September 02, 2015, 02:11:11 pm »
... yeah, I've pulled off to let lackwits that failed high school physics and wouldn't know inertia if it rammed the person ahead of them to death pass a few times. It can be a lot safer, what with the whole laws of physics and objects in motion thing.

Please don't be the person that demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of basic physics and how they react to fast moving heavy objects in the future ;_;

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Other Games / Re: Kittens! An incremental game of steam and science.
« on: September 02, 2015, 01:21:32 pm »
I find it interesting that the main limit to this is physical endurance, which is a meta-resource.
... well, physical endurance or how sensible you are. Autoclickers are a(n incredibly trivial to acquire and use) thing :V

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: September 02, 2015, 01:01:03 pm »
Not... really? Better focus and whatnot can help with writing et al.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: September 02, 2015, 09:27:58 am »
Ask toady, if you actually want to know. Preferably without continuing to talk about it in here. Not the place.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: September 02, 2015, 07:54:11 am »
If you get jumped by a bunch of muggers and you try to pull a gun on them, the probable result is that they'll end up making off with your wallet and your gun. That's how the black market maintains its supply of illegal weapons.
Only if you let them, if you have the gun you are clearly the one in control. It takes the time to raise your arm, not 10 minutes. That's a hell of a lot faster than the time it takes to do fancy martial arts or run away, and you end up leaving with your wallet.
... no, the one in control is the one already primed for violence with a weapon out. Which is one of the major reasons resistance is one of the faster ways to get yourself killed -- in the time you've pulled a gun, aimed, and fired (and that's assuming you hit, and the hit actually stops them), they've already put holes in you or beat you into the ground. The time to get the weapon unholstered, up, and pointed at the right thing, is all the time a mugger needs to put you down. Home invasions are roughly in the same place, with the added fun times of blue on blue incidents. Defend yourself if you feel like it's the appropriate option, but don't delude yourself into thinking it's the safer one.

S'not a matter of trust, it's a matter of who actually holds all the advantages in these kind of situations. And that's not the person being attacked, at all. As the numbers have pretty consistently shown, thinking the odds are improved if you fight back is how you increase the odds of becoming a statistic, and not a happy one. Folks are more than welcome to roll the stacked dice -- and they can come out ahead, of course, for all it's less likely -- but by the raw numbers of things, capitulation or escape is the path of least fatalities.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: September 02, 2015, 06:36:22 am »
Not gonna lie, I feel like if I got mugged I'd just empty my wallet and be like "Dude whatever you need this for just ask politely next time' or some shit 'cause I am a bitch.
For what it's worth, last time I checked the numbers the first part of that is pretty much the choice that is statistically least likely to get you killed or injured. Second least likely would be running the hell away. Anything that involves escalation starts increasing the chance you don't walk away. Trying to pull a gun on a mugger is one of the faster ways to get stabbed, beaten, and/or shot, insofar as reality goes. Everything from the physics to the psychology involved pretty massively supports the offensive/initiating side of the interaction in question :-\

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General Discussion / Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« on: September 02, 2015, 06:26:36 am »
... GGG is a super robot show with a child as a major character, at least. I'm less certain on it being child friendly :V

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: September 01, 2015, 11:35:19 pm »
Yes? Can't speak for the areas that don't have walmart, but you can get ammo and some firearms at at least some of 'em. There's functionally very little control on firearms, and even less on ammo.

E: and ninja'd, but eh.

E2: And on an amusing note, it's pretty trivial to take a box of ammo and some incredibly easily obtained (as in, drink bottles and such) material and pump out a good handful of pipe bombs :V

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: September 01, 2015, 10:51:38 pm »
Ehh... we've got a long way to go for that, for most things, and a lot of the shorter term stuff we're already working on phasing out. It is an extreme long term issue, but another couple of centuries should be mostly in the bag, resource wise (really, about the worst is probably water, of all things, and if we manage some energy breakthroughs desalination should become significantly more viable), and hopefully by then we'll have at least cracked fusion and whatnot and started space (or I guess deep mantle or somethin') mining. Biggest threat to stagnation's largely still the nukes, or yellowstone or somethin' going off.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: September 01, 2015, 10:44:01 pm »
People being killed. The idea that our civilization won't change technologically. Tainted love.
Not much worries on the second, at least. We're experiencing pretty incredibly rapid change on the technological level right now, just about across the board. Pick a field of research and we've probably seen a revolution or the next best thing to one in the last 50-100 years, and things are showing all signs of accelerating in most areas. Tech wise the future's lookin' pretty bright...

... as... as for the third, maybe toxic love would make your day brighter? Just about the best part of fern gully, that was.

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Well, attacking more, I guess I should have said. Ramping things up for post-primaries, be it as a republican or independent.

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... it's been twelve hours folks. It... it's time to move on.

Apparently Trump has started attacking the democratic candidate(s)? Spent some time trying to slam clinton for the emails silliness, by the looks of it.

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General Discussion / Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« on: September 01, 2015, 07:24:06 pm »
The overt religious pieces are picked out, but a lot of the elements of the traditional Christian ceremony often hang around. This website, for instance, offers advice on modifying the traditional script, which is full of religious symbolism in its complete form. Not everyone goes for that, but "traditional-style gay weddings" are absolutely a thing.
Heh, they are, but marriage ceremonies and marriage are two different things. The legal process really has very little to do with the former -- it requires some signed papers and similar scutwork, and that's really about it.

M'actually fairly okay with complaining about or being discomforted by the traditional ceremonies being appropriated, though it always seems a little silly considering the variations surrounding the process. Monolithic as the abrahamic churches like to think they are, they're kinda' not the only shows in town. Unfortunately marriage itself doesn't have terribly much to do with that, for all that the churches have been doing their damnedest to appropriate the term for themselves.

... thinking on it a little more, I guess you could make an argument about there being parallel between the one-in-the-eyes-of-god and one-in-the-eyes-of-taxesthe state, but if you go that far you'd be fighting against anything that even looks like marriage, regardless of what it's called or what tradition it originated from. And as I've since been ninja'd, the concept predates most of the religions against inclusive marriage laws rather substantially.

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How so?
Not just little to no resistance to marriage being suborned as a secular concept, but active and regular attempts to directly couple the two. Easily the greatest, most fervent, and most regular proponents for bringing the court into the church has been the religious side of things. Boils down to 'em wanting to be catered to by the legal system, and damn whoever gets shafted by it (which is significantly more people than homosexual couples, by the by).

It would have been fairly easy for the religious groups to say, "No. Use a different term." to the legal trappings, and refuse association (which might not have stopped the cultural (re)appropriation, but at least it would have mostly stopped the silly shit we're dealing with nowadays). But they didn't, and have since largely and vigorously insisted against any other course of action, even rallying against equal institutions by a different name -- see the nature of civil unions in the US, just as an example. The secular world has co-opted the term marriage to a fair extent because the religious one has pretty consistently refused to accept or offer other options.

It wasn't a clinical "civil union" for tax purposes, it was a recognition that they are two humans in love, hopefully for the rest of their lives.  There's a word for that, is what I'm saying.
T'be honest, that's half the reason I'd like to see marriage ditched as a legal term. It's supposed to be about union and lasting love, or at least publicly declared relations, not taxation and hospital visits and whatnot. Let marriage be decided by the married, not the county clerk's office. And don't let the latter claim any dominion over it. Keep them clinical and right the hell away from your relationship dynamics.

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General Discussion / Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« on: September 01, 2015, 06:08:18 pm »
Then you don't want marriage to have any legal import whatsoever, really. You want it kept in the church and out of the court room. That'd also nicely side step that not exactly minor issue of not all religions having the same connotations.

... I'd be curious to know what those trappings mentioned are, though. Legal same sex marriage doesn't exactly marry the couple in the eyes of god. And other than the word itself, which the religious folks kinda' only have themselves to blame for it being co-opted for secular use, I can't really think of any.

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General Discussion / Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« on: September 01, 2015, 05:44:45 pm »
*waggles hand* If marriage as a legal concept was replaced wholesale by civil unions (holding all the same rights, privileges, and responsibilities, of course -- marriage with the name filed off), there wouldn't be much debate. Even in areas where civil unions and marriages currently are legally equal, there's still (fairly appropriate) attempts to allow for same sex marriage. Separate but equal is not equal and all that.

But yeah, pretty much the entire crux of the issue is (religious) people holding the borderline blasphemous belief that the secular and religious institutions of marriage are the same thing. Making the implicit statement that the court is equal to god isn't something I'd exactly be comfortable with, were I religious, m'self :V

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