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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: September 03, 2022, 07:50:41 pm »
Sure, I guess. Trump signed into law in 2019 or so at least one law that made what he did in this case a federal felony at minimum, nevermind everything else about his theft of classified documents that was illegal. Hillary was found to have done a 'careless, but not indictably so' stupid, Trump then made that explicitly criminal and proceeded to do things that warrants even greater sentencing than he signed into law, so :V

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Why's the ocean darker blue towards the poles and lighter towards the equator?
This seems like a decent breakdown. tl;dr version: it ain't either (water is clear), but the way light works makes us think it is

it's apparently mostly a matter of depth and water content, and the colder waters are mostly richer in plankton and whatnot, so it shows up darker

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: September 03, 2022, 10:53:45 am »
Harder doesn't mean impossible, no. Just more difficult, especially among folks that aren't constantly barraged with buttery mails tier junk.

Remains to be seen the exact impact, but considering the DOJ's been pretty on top of things since the warrant search happened, well... there's better grounds than usual to think it's going to have a pretty strong effect.

E: Did later occur to me it's something of a strange comparison to begin with... the american right wing has spent the last three or so years basically losing their goddamn minds over those emails, and seem to believe everything up to and including extralegal imprisonment and execution are appropriate consequences for it. So that's the appropriate level of concern to be had, here?

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: September 03, 2022, 08:27:32 am »
Well, to give you a Republican's viewpoint on the whole Trump Files case, I can't help but think "So What?"

He tried to keep some files, much the same as Hillary Clinton.
Clinton cooperated entirely with the investigation into the email server from the start, the biggest hiccup on that front being on the part of a third party. She didn't try to "keep some files", some classified information was mishandled, but it was in ways that were largely casual or accidental (the emails they were in weren't themselves classified, so it was a very different beast from what trump did just from that), and as far as I'm aware entirely in conversations between people that had clearance to be seeing it. She didn't try to keep shit, there was just information that got included in other conversations that probably shouldn't have been, particularly not through email.

Trump, on the other hand, literally stole physical copies of blatantly classified documentation, clearly labeled as such in big ol' bright letters. This wasn't poorly considered reference to information that shouldn't have been talked about in a specific venue, it was literal theft of entire classified documents. He then repeatedly refused to cooperate with the return of the material he stole, had his lawyer affirmatively lie about returning it, and has since been spitting out a pile of contradictory statements on the subject and attempting to gum up investigation and retrieval efforts into the stolen documentation. That's without even touching the security issues, 'cause for all the problems with the email handling, what went on at MAL is an entire different level of mishandling.

They're very different beasts on more than a few different levels, from the act itself to how the people involved are responding to it. "Just an expansion" is wildly downplaying how much worse what trump did was.

And our politicians are enabling that behavior with the inhumane laws they are backing, on both sides.
And I'm sure you actually have citation for that both sides? Because there's definitely no question that, at a minimum, the scale of inhumane laws being proposed, and even more importantly implemented, is not balanced across the political spectrum right now, even a little.

It's pretty likely there's currently more laws against transgender girls participating in K-12 sports than there are transgender girls participating in K-12 sports, just as one bloody example out of too damn many.

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... anyone else out there remember the old PB&J cookies/oatmeal pies? Little debbie, I think. I keep getting the occasional urge to eat one, but they don't seem to be sold, like... anywhere, anymore. Nor anything like them, for that matter -- closest either doesn't have the jelly or isn't particularly similar in construction and whatnot.

I was basically raised on the damn things, pretty sure a good chunk of my generation was in this part of the US. Probably one of the best cheapo snack cake type things I've ever ate, even, for all that's not a high standard to reach. Never been able to figure out what happened to them.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: September 02, 2022, 07:45:45 pm »
It's not the worst thing by a long shot, but it is unquestionably the most straightforwardly illegal thing he's done. Like, there's a lot of flak that could and did get thrown over all the other illegal/immoral shit he's done, but fucking off with classified documents is just... there's no "well actually" position that's particularly likely to stick. Shitgibbon fucked up in a way that's just incredibly blatant and obvious even to folks otherwise inclined towards carrying water for the guy, and in a way that's really hard to prevaricate over, and is likely to get a lot of powerful people particularly pissed off with him in ways we haven't really seen before.

Literally anyone else might not even make it to jail after walking off with a pile of top secret documentation. It's the kind of shit that gets other people quietly disappeared to some black site and never heard from again. It's harder to cognitive dissonance this particular thing away.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: September 02, 2022, 06:25:06 pm »
Eh, it's probably fine to hold off on non-trans written stuff on trans issues, especially for a while. It's not going to completely close you off to the out-group perspective, because trans folks write about that, too.

It's just going to let someone else do the initial interaction with the proverbial blender (more) parts of the non-trans demographics are becoming, so someone else can take the risk of finding out if the blender is on or not. When you're starting to get frazzled about checking that with your own damn fingers, it can be a blessing.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: September 01, 2022, 10:10:38 pm »
Sorbo's, like... doing weird b-list christian movies nowadays or something, I think? He's gone places since the hercules days. Probably wouldn't be able to cast him for it, for better or worse.

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Other Games / Re: Starsector [TopDown Sandbox RPG on Space]
« on: September 01, 2022, 04:48:38 pm »
Look, the engineers are just making sure they've got job security, alright. You can't blame them for you putting a ship in orbit, that stuff's like kibble for a scrapper.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: September 01, 2022, 07:09:47 am »
... would. Since you've depluralized the plural anupodes, there. Does that mean you're talking about a local anus parade or something? You'd need something that singularized a collective.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: August 31, 2022, 06:53:10 pm »
you should ask them if anyone's ever taped the correct pass on the other side of the incorrect one, so that when they're told the state pass doesn't work they just flip the thing around (and probably waggle their eyebrows like they did something impressive, there's a remarkably mundane mental image in my head now that's like a dad joke distilled into a person at a park entrance thing)

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: August 31, 2022, 05:02:14 pm »
I was gifted a doily the other day from a young park ranger.
y'know, it took me a minute to parse that wasn't taking about a dolly, one of those hand cart things used to move stuff

... somehow it became less weird after i remembered that's not you spell dolly, neat little knitted things are actually far more reasonable as a small gift

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General Discussion / Re: What is consciousness?
« on: August 30, 2022, 10:27:41 pm »
I lose consciousness very briefly every few seconds.
Now there's a question: If someone habitually blinks asynchronously, do they never lose consciousness while awake? If you only blink one eye, do you lose (1/however many senses you care to count) of a consciousness at a time?

As a Christian, I think souls cause consciousness. Which is a lot easier to reconcile with free will than if we were just a bunch of neurons. :P
It's exactly as easy to reconcile with free will as if we're just a bunch of neurons, actually. They're observably identical states of being :P

E: Though for a fun time, give a hunt for the christian denominations that don't think souls exist. It's a non-zero number, iirc the scriptural interpretation revolves around reading parts of the end-times resurrection as a literal one of the physical body, which is later transported to heaven (or earth is turned into one, something along those lines). Materialist christian theology can be pretty neat, it has fun overlap with panentheistic/omnipresent interpretations of god.

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General Discussion / Re: What is consciousness?
« on: August 30, 2022, 08:51:30 pm »
Easy! Consciousness is just awareness.
tautologies are -2 points and a whomp with the nerf bat in any discussion not involving formal logic

*brandishes nerf bat menacingly*

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General Discussion / Re: What is consciousness?
« on: August 30, 2022, 06:51:54 pm »
I think people have been failing to figure that one out longer than any of us has been alive... or any nation has managed vaguely contiguous existence, for that matter. We don't know, and to all appearances don't yet have the tools necessary to find out. Lots of conjecture and argument, no conclusive answers beyond there being no conclusive answer.

Add on that its exact nature is also substantively irrelevant (most folks are still going to act exactly the same even if there is some kind of answer to exactly what consciousness is, and the lack of definite answer for the last <entirety of human existence> hasn't stopped folks from going about their day to day)... and that roughly puts it in the same place as theology: Fun to talk about, but also remarkably useless :P

... mostly I'm just wishing I could remember the formal term for study of consciousness (in philosophy it's something adjacent to epistemology, iirc, no clue about neurology and whatnot) so I could stick apa- in front of it, so I'd have something hang besides the apatheism. There's definitely a specific word for it, but gods know I don't remember it right now.

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