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May your work experience never grace the sad or wtf threads :V

Nah, your ... follow up would be, "You could almost say they're elderly."

*badum-tish*

tell me something about birdhouses m8 i swer2memum

... what sort of birdhouses? I've actually made a couple of the gourd ones over the years, but that's not exactly carpentry. Just putting a hole in a dead bit of plant. Easy as the blazes if you've got decent sized gourds you can dry out and empty, though.

Think there was a proper wood one, too, at some point, well over a decade ago. Small and simple birdhouses are pretty simple to make, iirc, even if you're doing things slightly more fancy than just a box one.

Hey, I remember talking about gate last time :V

Something about worm rot, heh.

E: Speaking of that, though, how much is being cut out of the anime? I remember being curious about how much of a difference there was going to be between the animated and print versions.

This probably isn't really the place to discuss the particulars of vegetarianism, yeah. It's not exactly a religion, though it's part of some (as per the gates mentioned above).

Still, it mostly depends on how you define harm. It's certainly painless (for the plants -- less so for the animals that end up dead to clear farmland et al), because (any known, anyway) plants are incapable of feeling pain, just like most insects, certain sea-dwelling macro-organisms, etc., etc. Pain is a fairly well defined phenomena from a physiological perspective, last I paid attention to that sort of thing.

And it's hard to say damage is really a fair qualifier -- there's plants that have to catch fire to continue their lifecycle, and many that have being eaten (sometimes to the death, iirc) in a similar position. Plus there's plenty of cases where damage is not harm -- see human exercise, ferex. Even straight up individual plant destruction is somewhat difficult to support as being substantially harmful -- plants that aren't kept to a stable population can and will end up driving themselves to extinction, and often times killing specific (diseased, ferex) plants is both relatively good for the plant itself (less net damage, same end results), and substantially good for every other of its kind in the vicinity.

Unthinking, short-sighted vegetarianism -- the sort that ends up driving animals and plants to extinction (aka agriculture ) -- can definitely be harmful, though. Rub to that is that that's not really saying much. Unthinking, short-sighted just-about-anything can be harmful, heh. On the other hand, you could almost certainly run a vegetarian system that's a full on net good (i.e. net reduction of harm compared to an undisturbed system, by the heuristic being used), for the people subsisting off it, for the general plant population involved, for most individual plants included, for the associated fauna biosphere, and so on, and so forth. Might even be possible to manage that with a non-vegetarian food production system, if difficult _{and sub-par -- the right kind of suffering makes the meat taste better ♫}

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As for the 3D printing, obviously the resources for it are going to have to come from somewhere, and that somewhere is almost certainly going to be reached by climbing over the corpses of mass populations of animals and plants. I'd almost wager that reliable, fully effective, non-animal replacements for meat will be the last death knell for most of the animal world. When we don't even care enough to keep them around to eat, we're going to expend significantly less effort keeping many (or any) of them around :V

Little bit more arguing :V

Seriously though, if it's not armored there's no real need for anything fancy. Just shoot it until it stops working, which really don't take all that much at all. They do appear to have tried mercury bullets, but reports on its effect are... apparently fairly widely varied, and... somehow... linked to JFK assassination conspiracy theories. Something about exploding heads (and apparently ignoring that's more or less the result of any bullet over a certain size hitting someone in the head).

Some kind of fume grenade does sound like it could be among the better options, though, sure, if you can't just shoot it or blow it up. Only rub there is that, as isp noted, anything that can do anything to the inner workings of a machine is going to do something significantly more horrendous to the inner workings of a person And get inside much the same, of course.

Mostly because acid's generally kinda' cruddy at... anything you'd want to do with a sprayer or dart, from what I understand. Except occasionally cleaning certain sorts of messes, anyway. We got way nastier chemicals and poisons and whatnot to use than most stuff that is or acts like your classic acid-y stuff. Also fire. Fire is always good.

Reason we don't have many fancy bullets in general is mostly because there's... just no real need for it. Bullet alone is lethal, and there's not much you can stick in it (at least that's going to transfer into whatever gets hit more than a bullet normally would, anyway) that's going to meaningfully increase that lethality.

... I'm just kinda' wondering why people care if the glass breaks. Glass shards mixed in with acid could only be a bonus, right? And if it breaks mid flight I... don't see how that would matter.

Though if you're going for lingering kills just stick something plaguey in 'em... pretty sure they had disease bullets worked out at some point. We've almost certainly got all sorts of wonderfully nasty stuff that'd work better in that scenario than a liquid acid, really.

E: For some fun, here's something involving modern day liquid-filled (sorta') bullets.

Also apparently there's actual mercury filled bullets out there. Hollowpoints with mercury injected, or somethin' like that. Of hilariously dubious effectiveness, though :V