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The part of the bill I learned about today, which really pisses me off, is that the US government is agreeing to subsidize the construction of new pipelines. Who knows, maybe we've always done that. But why do the mega-rich, environment-destroying oil barons get to make even more money at the taxpayer's expense for constructing something that the bill is actively trying to combat.

We've always done that, yeah, same with the leases and whatnot. Least from what I understand that part of the bill is an improvement from the current state of things (which is, of course, pretty shit) and has some wiggle room for shenanigans to mitigate the obvious problems involved (not the least of which being that interest in those leases has been reducing as renewable tech matures and the rest of it gets harder to extract), but it is indeed pretty damn far from ideal. Doesn't mitigate the rest of the good shit being passed with the bill, or even the likely benefits of just the green investment the leasing nonsense is ostensibly offsetting, but yeah, it's not great.

Don't even fucking joke about the GOP not being able to write a better bill for the oil and gas barons, though. All that'd take is cutting out the green investment and adding a pile of crippling regulation to it, which they'd love to do (nevermind removing regulation from said barons) and would about the only thing that could actually slow down the steady (if too damn slow) economic death of non-green tech.

Manchin is a fucking traitor to the human race, but between him, sinema, and the other 50 fucking traitors comprising the GOP wing of the senante, him being the hinge point of legislature is pretty much what we're stuck with if we're going to get fuckall this decade. It sucks, but that's the US for you

Can you keep your six foot distance? Yes you cane!

though i think it's more than six foot now or something, we might need to upgrade to jousting lances or somethin

I tend to avoid FG&RP, so personally very little, but it's a neat concept.

... actually following through on it sounds like something that would end in very literal fire, though. The forum equivalent of "Twitch plays gardening" sounds like it should probably be classified as an act of domestic terror, or some kind of war crime.

It's... not? I don't think anyone that's paid much attention is surprised that documents were kept (it was entirely known the shitgibbon had stolen a great heap of documents when he left office, getting them back has been an ongoing project for over a year), the closest thing to a surprise is exactly how classified they were ("heads could literally roll for this" classified), what their potential contents (nuclear tech, etc.) were, and maybe that the dumbass had affirmatively lied to federal officials about no longer having the classified stuff.

the song would be a song of despair at the concept of having time to stack anything neatly

That's what was trying to be communicated, yes.

Muslim extremist seem to be the most violent and prevalent extremist group.

They're easily the most reported on, but I'unno about actually in reality. Stateside, they're less violent and prevalent than other sorts of right-wing extremists and by a pretty significant margin, but the exact ratio is going to differ based on what country you're looking at. Worldwide, I'unno, and exactly how you look at it is going to depend on what you consider terrorism/extremist violence.

e: as in, it's been a few years (and a significant increase in right-wing violence) since I've seen the TEVUS (US domestic terror database, one of the best more or less available to the public) data, but the last time I did you had islam related incidents at about the same rate as left wing ones, and then other right-wing incidents occurring somewhat more than both of them combined. It is not a close thing in the US.

There are things going around that are saying that because he, as a former president, said the documents were declassified that the documents are automatically declassified, which is a little bit bananas.

You caught me before an edit finished, ha. The interesting thing in this case is that if they do, in fact, involve nuclear technology, his declassification powers literally don't matter. POTUS does not have the power to unilaterally declassify documentation involving nuclear tech, flat out. The laws have a specific exception carved out for that, executive branch just doesn't have that power. If he did have stuff involving that, he's just flat fucked so far as legal outcomes go.