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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: June 21, 2015, 01:20:54 pm »
I'm with yoink, here. Breakfast is the first meal of the day, be it at 6 AM or 6 PM. Lunch is second meal. Dinner is third. Snacks in between are acceptable, but if it's not a proper meal it doesn't count.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: June 21, 2015, 11:31:24 am »
Quote from: Arx on June 21, 2015, 10:57:49 am
Spelled the same way, and pronounced the same way! Why, in English there isn't one word set, there are just four hundred and sixty-four words spelled s-e-t! :P
Yeah, there's only three or four spelled set, iirc.

Fake-Edit: Shit, sorry, I actually checked. Turns out there's nineteen (or twenty one, if accept a second t) different definitions for set, and it can be used as a noun, verb, or adjective.

Actual-Edit: Incidentally, stuff like that is one of the reasons english can give non-native speakers fits :V

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General Discussion / Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« on: June 21, 2015, 11:27:10 am »
Quote from: ggamer on June 21, 2015, 10:57:31 am
I know a lot of racist folk, some more low key than others, but I have never met someone who was filled with so much racist vitriol that they would go and shoot up any black people, let alone a church.
All I can say to that is that I'm glad you haven't, or at least haven't noticed you have. I've been around more people than I'd like that were only a couple notches of social approbation from picking up a gun and going hunting.

You have to remember gg, the last public hanging of a black person is still in living memory. My grandfather's old enough to remember that year, and still kicking. Lot of the folks of the generations that came from that area and shortly thereafter are... not as distanced from the beliefs that lead to stuff like that as a lot of us would like. Less willing to be open about it, 'cause the social tide as turned pretty hard against it, but it's still there. And as this incident shows, it can still pass on to the younger generations :-\

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I can't logically comprehend a healthy mind finding that an appropriate response, no matter how bad things are down here.
*shrugs* When you genuinely believe that a social group are rapists and all that racist bugshit, violence of that sort becomes more understandable. You, happily enough, believe the premises that sort of thing builds itself off are false. Folks like the guy in question didn't, and, well. What happened happened.

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General Discussion / Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« on: June 21, 2015, 10:36:31 am »
Quote from: ggamer on June 21, 2015, 10:28:03 am
Once again everybody has to identify the exact wrong issue with the fact that someone with a mental disorder has been walking around that long without getting treatment
Uh, actually, from what I've been picking up the guy had no history or particular indication of having a mental disorder (though it's entirely possible I've missed an update or somethin' that says otherwise). He was to all appearances just a hateful racist fuckwit.

I... know a lot of people would like to think that racist vitriol extending to the point it did for this guy is a mental disorder, but... to a large extent, it's not. It's just what can happen when you've been sufficiently inculcated into that sort of hatred.

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General Discussion / Re: Religion and Spirituality Discussion: Yet Another Thread
« on: June 21, 2015, 10:32:07 am »
... caitlyn who? *starts reading article*

Ah. Olympic, current pop... thing, and apparently publicly transitioning? Never heard of 'em, before or after the name change, but those first bits explain why. First I've heard of... whatever's going on regarding that.

Will... kinda' say it's a little distasteful the author says be compassionate and understanding and then insists on using the wrong name for most of the article :-\

Wrong pronoun I could see due to personal beliefs (though it's still a bit of a jackass thing to do :V), but if the critter's changed their name they've changed their name, and it's time to update your method of address. Insisting otherwise is a pretty clear demonstration of lack of... well, what the author is ostensibly proposing.

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General Discussion / Re: Will humans homogenize?
« on: June 21, 2015, 10:18:09 am »
What... what do you even mean when you ask that? Simple aesthetic attraction, sexual attraction, capability of arousal, general libido...?

Can't really be arsed to hunt of hard data, but I will cheerfully note that there's a reason a fair amount of the phenotypically white multi-generational US families have some degree of black ancestry (and vice-versa). It's fairly rare, from what I've seen, at least, that a person's distaste for a different general phenotype is actually sufficient to turn off their randy bits, other factors allowing.

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General Discussion / Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« on: June 21, 2015, 08:30:32 am »
Quote from: MonkeyHead on June 21, 2015, 07:13:41 am
News in the UK reported that he was bought the gun he used as a birthday present. That.... that sets off alarm bells for me.
Noted in the USApol thread that's false. Guy bought the gun with birthday money, but the gun itself wasn't a present. Also worth noting that the guy had prior record, iirc, and shouldn't have been able to buy the gun :V

That said, yes, people get firearms as gifts. It's noted well that the vast majority of illegal guns in the US start legal, and it's not exactly uncommon for a gun to show up in the hands of someone that couldn't pass a background check because friends/family gave it over, sometimes as some sort of gift. Hell, the one gun I actually own (an antique .22 that's over a century old at this point. Still works, last I checked on it, but that's been a bit.), was passed down to me by family. Don't recall it being a birthday gift, but... yeah, it happens, and there's pretty much no oversight on the process.

Mind you, if you possess a firearm you shouldn't, the gifting process won't protect you from potential legal repercussions, but you don't exactly have to check in with the local law enforcement or whatev' to pass a firearm to... anyone, really, in most states, so far as I can recall.

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General Discussion / Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Was Inevitable
« on: June 21, 2015, 06:22:00 am »
In other news, it looks like the FBI director has come down saying the shooting was not an act of terrorism. Apparently the highly political act of violence aimed to goad the country into a violent political schism is not a political act of violence intended to influence a public body or citizenry, according to Comey. Can't seem to find the originating news article (and it's entirely too early in the morning for me to keep looking :V), but a few dozen different ones are showing up with your average google search regarding James Comey.

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General Discussion / Re: Will humans homogenize?
« on: June 21, 2015, 05:50:03 am »
... @OP, genetically, we're already homogenized to a pretty ridiculous degree. Forget the exact percentage, but it's well into the upper nineties from what I recall -- the genetic difference between one human and the next is not even remotely substantial. Barring outlier mutations, there already aren't really standout differences between one human and the next, much as bigots would like to say otherwise.

Phenotypic homogeneity is more what you'd be looking for, heh. And, as noted, still wouldn't end the problem of the specific form of bigotry that is racism. Where traits don't exist to other and ostracize, humans create them. Physical -- to an extent, even behavioral -- homogeneity won't stop that. What it would take to fully stamp that out is a fairly radical shift in human culture and psychology/neurology. We've been working on the former for several decades now, and is an ongoing process. The latter, we, uh. Probably won't meaningfully consider, and are likely several decades out from being technologically capable of.

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General Discussion / Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« on: June 20, 2015, 09:14:03 pm »
Quote from: i2amroy on June 20, 2015, 07:32:33 pm
At that point your choices in a scenario are "they have guns and you don't" or "we both have guns", and honestly I'd probably say that the second one is better.
Oddly enough, from what I recall of gun violence, by the numbers (i.e. people shot and shot & killed), insofar as the victim in the encounter walking away that's largely untrue. You encounter someone armed and try to pull on them, and you're fairly significantly more likely to die because of it than otherwise. Carrying actually increases your risk of harm and death in the case of a violent encounter.

As... well, as anyone that is actually familiar with firearm usage, especially in criminal encounters, would be able to tell you, when it comes to gun on gun violence the person that wins is almost always the person that shoots first -- and someone intending to commit violence with a firearm is going to have it pulled and be significantly more likely to pull the trigger if pressed than, y'know, your average civilian (even -- especially, to a degree, because arms carrying is known to induce a false sense of security -- someone that is trained and carrying.). You may be carrying, but that doesn't mean you're even remotely as capable of drawing and pulling in a manner that's actually going to help you. It's notably more likely to just flat get you killed.

Firearm carrying is just... it's not a matter of actual safety, largely. Psychological safety, maybe, but physically... no. Unfortunately.

... in other news, eyetwo, a 3x increase is, uh. Not "slight". Though yeah, murder rate in particular, even gun-related murder, is significantly more complicated than just which area has the most gun owners. Violence in general is multivariate as hell.

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And yeah, true, there's going to be some people you just can't dissuade from being bigoted fuckwits. Some folks are just screwed up in the head, and there's not really any degree of persuasion that can do anything about it. Ideal is to get that percentage of the population as small as possible. Getting rid of it may never happen, but if we can get it small enough to be well contained that'd be a fairly significant victory.

In other other news, if that's the same NRA critter I'm thinking of, what's amusing is that the NRA itself pretty immediately broke association with the comment in question. The backpedal involved was worth a chuckle.

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Other Games / Re: Tome 4: Tales of Maj'Eyal
« on: June 20, 2015, 09:04:42 am »
Or just roll a sun paladin or shield-based arcane blade. They're both solid, and sunpas are hella' stronk right now.

And there's always ogres. You roll ogre, any of the two-hand classes (include, for example, a paradox mage :V) can be a shield class :P

Or get a hold of addons and do that silly xorn thing with the four weapon slots.

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General Discussion / Re: Mountain Dew
« on: June 19, 2015, 04:08:56 pm »
I'unno, actually drinking down syrup leaves a pretty notably different aftereffect than drinking a bottle of dew, in my experience.

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General Discussion / Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Was Inevitable
« on: June 19, 2015, 04:02:11 pm »
Quote from: Wolfhunter107 on June 19, 2015, 02:29:02 pm
Apparently, the South Carolina state legislature is still keeping the Confederate flag at full mast when every other flag in the city is at half mast.
That... is actually because it takes an act of state congress to move that flag. It's padlocked in place, and not to be moved by dint of state law. At some point SC legislated that the confed flag was to be placed there and not tampered with (presumably except for the occasional replacement or cleaning, I'unno), for fear that a future governor would remove it. If someone had put it at half mast, they would have faced charges, apparently.

As for the gun thing, apparently the guy actually bought the gun himself, just with birthday money. To whatever extent it actually matters, the firearm itself wasn't a straight up gift. It's worth noting that the critter in question apparently had prior record, and should not even remotely have been able to do that, but *shrugs*

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General Discussion / Re: Mountain Dew
« on: June 19, 2015, 02:29:57 pm »
Oddly enough, the last time I tried fanta (think it was one of the orange flavored variants) it very literally gave me a headache. Every time I tried to drink it. Which was two or three times before going "Yes. Pattern." and pouring it out.

Fairly irrelevant, though. I think the only sodas I've drank to any notable extent in the last two or three years has been some barqs. Few one off other rootbeers, a little bit of coke once or twice... mostly just been water and lemonade, though. Maybe three liters over the course of the last year, on the outside. Friggin' caffeine and carbonation kicking up acid reflux. I liked sodas. Now I can't really drink 'em :-\

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Other Games / Re: Tome 4: Tales of Maj'Eyal
« on: June 19, 2015, 02:03:27 pm »
Bulwark deals with elemental damage by getting a shield with the appropriate elemental resist and blocking, in my experience.* Ideally, you have both block prodigies and a shield with a huge honking block value and just tank everything forever. Getting 0 damage from high peak rares is always good for a lul.

*Well, that and using step-up/rush to just kill everything doing elemental damage before they can hurt you much.

Addons... I could speak on that, but later. In the short term, maybe forge knight? They're fun. Slim on the AoE until later on, but fun. Perhaps try the class packs, they might have something in them you find appealing. Or just try adventure mode, heh.

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