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Messages - Frumple

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Uh, yes? They're fairly rare nowadays, but you still have a fair handful puttering around. Y'can order the things online, heh.

Most that I'm aware of look rather different than those old iconic stone ones, though. Some are still used to do the same thing, just, y'know, modern engineering.

E: And yeah, there's farms and stuff over here in the states that use 'em. There's a few of the newer, smaller, metal-y ones, like, within an hour's drive of my place. Not very many or heavily used, but they're around.

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General Discussion / Re: You wanna rescue the world?
« on: April 21, 2015, 12:28:40 pm »
I don't see any reason to assume that there would be a giant qualitative leap from a team of thousand super-intelligent scientists to a super-intelligent AI.
... have you ever seen a team of a thousand scientists actually work together well? There's significantly fewer logistic issues involved with one 1k scientist equivalent computer and a thousand scientists. You'd see a significant qualitative leap simply because there's significantly fewer human inefficiencies involved.

In other words, I see a thousand reasons why there would be a giant qualitative leap from that team to the AI (or expert systems, or whatever, really). One for every scientist in the metaphorical team. Probably more just due to the mechanics of communication and cooperation and whatnot. You get some gains back from synergy and whatnot, but I'd be incredibly surprised if it was enough to offset the difference.

The reality, of course, is that you'd use both to the extent you're able. S'already what we do to a fair extent, and there's no real reason to stop until the scientists are well and truly made obsolete.

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General Discussion / Re: You wanna rescue the world?
« on: April 21, 2015, 11:55:36 am »
If we consider the moment the first computer was created (A quick google search tells me it was built in 1822) as the moment we started working on a better version of ourselves, that's almost 200 years of development, and we aren't even close yet.
Do people really not really grok how freakishly fast these developments have occurred, compared to general human history? We speak of two centuries like it's this some strange long time, when in fact it's been a period of development more rapid than any before it by several orders of magnitude.

We've seen ridiculous transformations in the breadth and depth of technology in single lifetimes, and we don't actually have much indication that's going to slow down. Prediction is fairly silly, though, if only 'cause we don't really have a bloody clue what's going to change next. What has been happening over the last handful or two of decades is entirely unprecedented in human history. We don't really have a goddamn idea what's going to happen next.

On the other hand, to think that it's not going to perception shattering for like the sixth bloody time in the last century or so is kinda' foolish. We have had a string of successive events telling us that predicting things aren't going to radically change is somewhat unlikely, with every indication that's either not going to slow down significantly or begin to outright accelerate.

Maybe it'll be AI. Maybe it'll be something else -- we're seeing gains towards biological freaking immortality right now, nevermind the various non-medical advances. The only bet you can really make at this point is that it's going to be something, because that keeps happening.

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... better chocolate, anyway.

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... that was me being charitable to this misbegotten hellswamp, baug.

Seriously, you don't want to live here if you actually have to work. Go somewhere with a better job market, less poverty, and less heat. Maybe come back when you're old and have a passive income. Or better yet just don't. Go somewhere else. The elderly die of heatstroke, and have to be around the young that weren't smart and fortunate enough to get the hell away from this state. Nobody right minded wants that.

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... you'd have to live there to run. Why would you ever want that? That's almost as bad as willingly moving to florida before you retire.

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General Discussion / Re: You wanna rescue the world?
« on: April 20, 2015, 04:01:10 pm »
... the point was not a point. The point was idle glibness.

Though yeah, looking at it, the feed efficiency is about 50% worse for pigs compared to poultry (though still ~3/5ths what beef is on the low end, so you're still making major improvement if you switch from beef to pork).

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General Discussion / Re: You wanna rescue the world?
« on: April 20, 2015, 03:38:15 pm »
Eat the entire pig, too. Maybe feed the parts you don't back to other pigs. Or chickens, whatever. Feed leftover chicken to pig, leftover pig to chicken. Sounds like plan.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: April 20, 2015, 03:36:24 pm »
... considering we have been doing genetic engineering more or less since before we had the freaking written word, methinks current complaints are more kneejerk than anything. Far more kneejerk than anything.

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General Discussion / Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« on: April 20, 2015, 02:45:48 pm »
... are you really putting the various feminist movements on par with a hate group that has a history of literally killing people? Yes, people are going to have a different reaction to ideologies that promote civil rights vs. ones that promote terror and murder. Hypocrisy, that is not.

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General Discussion / Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« on: April 20, 2015, 08:55:18 am »
... that's what a basic income is, yes.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: April 20, 2015, 08:24:50 am »
The kind that has been sitting around long enough to start growing again. The little bud parts are called eyes, 'least around here.

E: In other news, while cinnamon does make this spicy noodle dish taste better, it does not help mitigate the spicy part. In fact, it seems to be making it worse. I'll... have to remember that.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: April 20, 2015, 07:46:20 am »
Peeling potatoes is definitely something one should not do, unless there's something seriously wrong with the skin (in which case why the hell are you eating the potato?). Skin is best part, and part best for you. Clean, maybe cut out eyes, cook, eat.

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That's exactly what led to the thought, yes.

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Dude should declare a year of interpretive dance, such that all catholic politicians and religious figures can only communicate publicly through phat moves. That would be a good year.

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