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Re: the point about Chaos have some populations of relatively stable, free humans (by 40K terms): So do the Impies. On a vastly larger scale.

That's the thing people forget when they talk about the Imperium. You hear about Tomb Worlds here, genestealer cults there, Ork incursions fuckin' everywhere... because that's what makes for "exciting" plots. The Imperium is fucking gigantic. For every world that's being shit on, there are scores or hundreds that are at relative peace, where the citizens 'only' have to deal with the generic problems of the bureaucracy.

... generic problems of the bureaucracy that can and do regularly kill people, often horrific living conditions, backbreaking and often lethal labor, regular conscription/press gangs, corruption everywhere (that kills and maims and impoverishes and etc.) even when there's not chaos/genestealer/etc. cults, so on, so forth. For a lot of those so-called free humans, a daemon world wouldn't exactly be a downgrade, especially with some nice chaos blessings to offset the various issues.

Chaos can't really sustain itself in the long run against such forces as the fully awakened Necrons or the Tyranids in full force, since either of those would destroy or scour clean the Warp.

Neither can the impies :V

Hell, they're reliant on the warp and the astronomicon -- that's a whole 'nother point of existential failure, right there.

Though hell dude, the 'crons and the 'nids could straight up take everything else in the galaxy except the orkz if they got their shit together. Chaos not being able to manage it solo doesn't say much, heh.

Not sure if Ogryn or Orcs are dumber.

Orkz are actually pretty damn smart, they're just operating under a different paradigm of what reality is -- and them being them, they're right in relation to orkz. Humies and whatnot are the idiots in relation to orkyness. And the reverse isn't even true, since there's plenty of boys that can actually work with and reverse engineer non-ork tech and methodology. They just don't, 'cause the orky stuff legitimately works better from their point of view (which is, again, fully accurate in regards to how orkz work and what their goals are).

It's not really idiocy when stuff like painting yourself purple to turn invisible ('cause oo evah 'erd of a purple ork?) actually works.

How did you get "Burter" from "Strongest Known DBZ Life-form™"?

The saltybet should have been a hint. I guess it would technically be one of the brolys, but they're boring and screamy.

... and they actually name the current strongest DBZ critter wizz? Seriously? *checks* Oh wow, it's even got the phallic symbolism going on. I'd say someone's taking the piss, but, uh.

And this beerus thing is a cat. The design team was, indeed, as drunk as the name suggests. Beer us and wizz. Names of the gods. What the hell happened, DBZ. You used to just be named after food. Now you're named after frat parties.

... that was frogdude's shtick back in the namek arc, serg. Stopping it, anyway. A little late to the party, this new critter.

We already have an active thread[/i] for T4. Last post was yesterday, heh.

That said, the important bit here is the person using toddlers as an example for innate sinfulness. They know what it is, so they can point to toddlers as an example of it. What the toddler knows or does not know is wholly irrelevant.

... except toddlers still aren't inclined to sin. They're inclined towards incomprehension (for the younger ones) or disobedience (for older), but those aren't one thing and the same.

Shouldn't be, anyway. I will acknowledge some denominations hold that obedience to your parents/elders/etc. is an absolute unbending law for which any deviance therefrom is sin, but I will cheerfully call those ones bughumping insane. I've had my parents tell me to break the law and do things harmful both to myself and others far too many times -- and gods know I feel no need to ask forgiveness from them for not going along with it -- to consider that anything but raw bupkis. Lines up with those that consider folks that have never heard of the bible as irrevocably damned, too...

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Though I guess you could call incomprehension or disobedience sin, if you want to... it would fit in with the whole damnation of pacific islanders shtick, and fall in line with the ability to sin without intention or conscious action. Damnation from birth to death bit, too. Nasty way to look at the world, though. Doesn't seem healthy, y'know?

Sweet blue crumbling bumblehump take it to another goddamn thread.

Quote from: Frumple on March 30, 2015, 11:56:54 am

Fairly good odds it ends up in the pound (i.e. dead)

So, you're saying the British currency is literally made from dead puppies? Not that I'm surprised or anything.

Animal shelter is the more generic/euphemistic term, I guess. That'll work too, though.

Pound, referencing the older structure that had a similar use, is probably more descriptive, unfortunately. Those joints usually aren't shelters, they're places animals are held for a little while and then killed. Generally overall for the better, despite all the nastiness at times involved, but...

Deadboats was good for wakfu. It's a nice, subtle reference. I'd say go for it again, if we do the guild thing.

And if someone does, I'll totes toss 'em a portion of the price whenever I log in again (which might not be a day or two more, I'unno. Dead tired and probably will be again most of tomorrow.). Technically I've got 100k+ laying around, but priestosaurus rex needs tier 3 puppet recipes.

Well, not really need, since krug alone is still occasionally wiping out entire rooms in one move and I can't really afford to keep in stock of those as it is, but still.