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General Discussion / Re: The upcoming virtual reality hardware war
« on: March 15, 2015, 10:51:00 am »
... I'm kinda' curious what you people are doing with your mouse that you can't find it again after taking your hand off to type, without looking at it. Like. It... it shouldn't be moving. And it's been seconds, probably. Even pretty terrible short-term memory should be able to manage that?

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Considering it's russia, if it comes to that some will miss aus and land close enough (or on) the joint to either kill or irradiate (i.e. kill slow) everything there. So no worries. Even if you'd have been able to survive the total societal collapse that came afterwards in some odd scenario you didn't go boom outright, that won't happen. Even if you're not a target, russian nukes would handle you obliteration anyway. What intent doesn't manage, vodka and rust will.

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... well, see the list of reasons I just gave. Comfort, tradition, safety, belief, etc. Beyond that, if you're essentially not caring then you generally want to go with the most advantageous position for yourself... which in many (most) places is going to be calling yourself religious. Even if you're not. Especially if you're not, many times.

Beyond that, with the exception of the safety bit it's... usually not really awful, especially considering how little religion really interacts with most people's lives. You get an easy social group, comforting and group-affirming ritual, and a facade of metaphysical certainty for what is often relatively little cost. It's... not really difficult to see why people would go that route, especially if it's not something they find themselves conflicted about, for whatever reason. Sometimes if they do, too.

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*shrugs* Well, welcome to being in the common believer's position. Most people don't really think too hard on it, from what I've seen -- it's what their parents/community taught and they've had no significant reason to deviate. Other people believe because it's comforting. Others because they believe it's a/"the" truth. Still others believe because others believe. More because they feel it makes them a better person. Some because it's not safe/otherwise disadvantageous for them to express otherwise (and, as sometimes happen, if you express something often enough and long enough, you might start believing it even if you didn't start out that way). Or some or all of the above, and still more. The list just kinda' goes on, and can vary heavily between individuals.

... if you're looking for a simple or singular answer, you're not going to find it, heh.

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Which stance? Irreligion, or religious belief?

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You'd probably classify as some variation on irreligious, then, if you wanted to classify things. The thing worth note is that a person's stance on religion can differ from their stance on theism/spirituality... metaphysics in general, really.

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General Discussion / Re: Transgender Bathrooms
« on: March 14, 2015, 10:17:29 pm »
Not even sure if this is a good idea to post, but, ugh. Feel the need to say a little, I guess? So...

... most people actually have been trying to interact with T as requested, GC. No quotes and corrections when slip-ups happen, attempts to understand, generally trying to keep things above board even when disagreeing or not understanding. There hasn't exactly been malice being expressed. Lack of understanding or agreement, difficulty with communication and/or comprehension, sure, definitely, but... if there's been anything beyond the rare exception that's been explicitly bad natured, it's a tonal difference I certainly haven't been able to detect, m'self. We haven't been seeing the actions of people that want to cause harm -- people that are, almost certainly, but the intent really hasn't been there.

In this particular discussion, the worst has probably been LB being LB and 4mask taking things further than should have been (and knowing when to drop or stop pushing a conversation is something not everyone is entirely practiced at, especially when they're dealing with the sort of outside context problem most people these days encounter when dealing with T's position on internet behavior). And having communication missteps equated to a viciously evil bigot telling people to kill themselves isn't exactly the most appropriate reaction either, even when it's entirely understandable why it seems that way from the person saying such.

S'just... I'unno. These last few pages have been painful to watch. Seems to be a number of people unintentionally saying hurtful things and being responded to in kind, neither side really realizing that's not what the other person is trying to do, and no one involved seemingly either able or willing to help folks avoid that. It hurts to see, y'know? I don't like seeing these kinds of blowups over what are more fundamentally communication troubles (on either or both ends) than anything else :(

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: March 14, 2015, 09:00:35 pm »
And Belize, darvi. And belize. And the philippines and saudi arabia and I guess canada, too

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: March 14, 2015, 08:43:00 pm »
... it's 14/3/2015 in most places tho...

On the other hand, I guess it is a sign of american superiority that they can have pi day while europe can't. Well, the states and Belize. And a few other, less important, places that use the correct format interchangeably, apparently.

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General Discussion / Re: Transgender Bathrooms
« on: March 14, 2015, 12:33:56 pm »
I'd give some weight to the different plumbing thing... except when was the last time you saw a urinal in a private bathroom? It's... kinda' obvious we don't really need them, and could get by perfectly well with just stalls.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: March 14, 2015, 09:57:32 am »
I think it's based on a Russian folk song called "Коробушка", Korobeiniki.
No need to think, you've got it right.

It's pretty great to run into that thing randomly. It's one of the bits of music bards play in nehrim :V

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General Discussion / Re: Transgender Bathrooms
« on: March 13, 2015, 04:06:09 pm »
I don't... think so? I might not even have the state right -- it's the one where buncha' people got together to give students an influence on who gets elected superintendent, and then some republican jackwad decided to attach his precious transhate bill to it.

E: It was kentucky. You can see one of the news reports on it here. Probably better sources for it than yahoo, but I currently haven't ate in something like 18 hours so I seriously don't feel expending the effort to find a better one.

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General Discussion / Re: Transgender Bathrooms
« on: March 13, 2015, 04:00:30 pm »
Aye, rider's the general term. It's even relevant to the discussion, since... kentucky, I think? Is currently trying to sabotage a bipartisan education related bill by attaching a transgender bathroom segregation law to it.

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General Discussion / Re: Transgender Bathrooms
« on: March 13, 2015, 01:26:03 pm »
... we do have laws against drunk and disorderly conduct, though, in the US. As well as DUI et al, which in the states drinking in public is only a half-step from openly admitting you're about to do so. There's also various ones that restrict drinking in certain areas. It is fairly rare that there's actual no-drinking-in-public laws, here in the states, but it's fairly common that there's a suite of them that functionally equates to it.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: March 13, 2015, 12:36:27 pm »
Rummaging through my notes file (well, technically Opera's notes dingus) looking for faintly important information, and I find this, from about a year ago:
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Contributing to the decay of the understanding of mathematics in my culture

and

I

have

no

regrets.

... pretty sure I know what I was talking about at the moment (wolfram alpha), but...

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