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Messages - Frumple

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Really, this boils down to whether you believe Jesus is God. Really, that is what almost every argument of the Bible boils down to.
I... don't know if that's an entirely accurate assessment. From what I understand of christian history, belief that the bible is a literal account of events is both a primarily minority one and largely a new one, having only gained notable traction fairly recently as history goes. Many christians for much of the belief system's existence have believed in the divinity of SJ while holding the bible itself to be either substantially metaphorical or just plain-clothes flawed. People can, and many, many do, believe that Jesus is God while questioning the literal accuracy of the biblical texts.

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As descan said earlier, as facts get passed on through the generations, details get mixed up untill the story is completely different.
... that position necessarily undermines the entire basis for your belief, though. In holding that that happened, you're opening the possibility -- and, indeed, likelihood* -- that the same thing happened to the biblical account and the details reported there have been mixed up.

*Especially considering most identified potentials for the cause of seriously major historical flooding happened millennium before genesis was penned.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: March 08, 2015, 03:08:22 pm »
Apparently today is Daylight Savings or something, and I've been an hour behind all day. Yaay, one less hour to do things. Yaaaaaay.
... silly space. The amount of hours in a day have not changed. You've still got just as many hours to do things :P

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Let me clarify. I believe in the biblical account of the flood. Not the giglamesh account. I was just pointint out that many accounts of the same event from different cultures generally means it happened.
... wouldn't the simple existence of other flood accounts render the biblical one necessarily false? It held that everything except the arkfolk keeled over dead. If there were other cultures with an accounting thereof, that... couldn't have happened. Because they would have been dead. If you're going to point to other cultural flood myths as evidence, you're saying the account you prefer is notably inaccurate...

@ Cryx: It's significantly more likely that there wasn't a great flood, but many different ones that were particularly notable to a specific region, possibly alongside some general water level increases and whatnot. It's not like floods are a particularly uncommon event, especially in areas that are actually significantly desirable for habitation.

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Other Games / Re: Subnautica..
« on: March 08, 2015, 02:50:44 pm »
Earlacc. Then we can call the place they go to die the earlacc pit and have it try to eat boba fett.

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"One of the" instead of "an" would have perhaps been better wording -- the statement was meant to be inclusive of judaism, christianity, and islam (and the smaller related junk, of course). "None" falls under annihilation, heh.

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... except it wouldn't be help, t'me. The christian afterlife is damnation regardless of which direction you go, from my perspective. Infinite torture or infinite slavery with a side of grotesque personality reconstruction -- both sound pretty horrible. I personally want nothing to do with any aspect of an abrahamic afterlife, short of maybe the bit where people are just annihilated.

'Course, the heaven generally isn't framed that way, but that's why it's fridge horror instead of just straight up :-\

Bleh. I should have remembered there's a reason I generally don't like thinking too hard about religious afterlife scenarios...

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I've always been fond of just plain oblivion, myself. Several decades of this shit is more than enough to want to peacefully sleep for the rest of eternity, and I've yet to see a description of an afterlife that wasn't either some sort of fridge horror or boring as hell (or both, in some cases). Just... let me have peace, damnit. Or at least eternal epic!dream mode or somethin'.

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General Discussion / Re: Defining the Roguelike Genre
« on: March 08, 2015, 10:03:20 am »
... except CK2 is clearly not a roguelike (it is, aptly put, a dynasty simulator), and some games that clearly are (The oiginal Gearhead, ferex) don't have permanent failure states. The biggest problem with trying to tie down what a roguelike is is that pretty much any metric you decide to use has been violated at some point by a game that's easily identifiable as a roguelike. About the only thing that even approaches consistent is procedural generation, but there's even a handful that violate that. Multi-point systems ala the berlin interpretation is probably the best we're going to get at this point, to the extent a best is even needed. Roguelike is long past the point of being a binary state, having instead evolved into a spectrum. Is why watching folks trying to lock it back down into a binary state is as frustrating as it is.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: March 08, 2015, 09:54:26 am »
Because the Russian griffin has a Georgian accent..?
Presumably because of the bits of humor that the voice acting/responses put into the games. That have, uh. Been there since the first warcraft, iirc, and definitely since the second.

... the games have never been particularly serious. Or rather, they've always had their seriousness alongside humor, right from the start.

E: What the hell am I even reading right now.* This is a scene where a crazed world-savior is attempting to violate a giant bird with a dong-tipped spear. I mean. It's beautifully absurd, but. But.

*Well, okay, it's Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari, in a literal sense.

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... people say that, but I can't really tell the difference between 30 and 60 fps, much less 60 and something higher. It all looks and plays about the same to me once you're past the point of obvious stutters, which happens (for me, anyway) in the 30+ range.

Unless the thing's gone buggy and that causes everything to go into super-speed ala old dos games on a modern computer, anyway.

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General Discussion / Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« on: March 08, 2015, 12:00:51 am »
... I have no idea what that's referencing, and I find myself inexplicably gladdened by that.

Also good gods that little heart shaped blood pool. This is why the naruto fanfiction sections are what they are ;_;

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General Discussion / Re: Defining the Roguelike Genre
« on: March 07, 2015, 10:33:11 pm »
Prooobably better off in Other Games, methinks.

Don't really have anything else to add -- I stopped really caring about a definite definition for roguelikes probably at least five or six years ago, and generally just get kinda' annoyed with the whole discussion at this point. If it's enjoyable and close enough, who cares what exactly you call it, y'know? Folks should spend less time arguing about what to call 'em and more time playin' 'em.

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Other Games / Re: Rift (Now Free to Play!)
« on: March 07, 2015, 09:50:17 pm »
Nope. There's some fairly minor conceptual similarities, if you squint at it hard enough, but if you're talking like related franchises or whatev', no.

... a Rifts MMO would have probably been considerably more interesting, really.

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General Discussion / Re: I like anime, do you like anime?
« on: March 07, 2015, 06:55:47 pm »
Well, no... there's a lot more going on than that. How the MC interacts with wanting to be a hero and other heroes, the general political situation, various character interactions... for all that the overt conflict is pretty straightforward and there is, indeed, a strong anti-climax sort of thing threading through it, there's actually a fair amount going on in the manga.

... sorta'. I couldn't bring myself to read through the less pretty one to find out if what we've seen so far in the pretty one continues onward, plot development wise. It may be that the current extent of the prettier one is just covering the first arc or somethin'.

Still. I've not been entirely unimpressed with the storytelling happening in One-punch. It actually seems to have a degree of sophistication going on.

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