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Drone strike on wedding does equal a drone strike on a civilian gathering (which would, y'know, include homes, apartment complexes, etc.), where many of those present are unaffiliated in any substantial sense to the target, though. Which is something we've shown a distinct willingness to indulge in.

Aren't they both still pretty incomplete? It might be better to wait for development to, well, develop more, before choosing. Beyond that, it looks like there's quite a lot of gameplay videos putzing around youtube for both of 'em, for more comparison.

E: Though looking at some videos for vagante, it does look like, while they look fairly similar, they play very differently. V's considerably slower and more deliberate, to all appearances.

*waggles hand* Only a little, in practice, especially by this point. It's certainly more complicated -- being able to more-or-less custom design your units is going to do that, as is the research system -- but it still flows pretty well and controls pretty decently. There's quite a few really nice quality of life options (auto-retreat at low health, ferex). Arguably flows even better for the larger-scale combat, since the existence of commander units and how they work do a decent job on cutting down micromanagement and whatnot. There's a lot of things going for it.

TA would be Total Annihilation, Zanz.

Annnnddd... I just had a surprise trip dropped on me with zero prior warning. Fairly good chance I'll be on the road or about to hit it when the games start

May still be able to join in, but it's now looking doubtful. Bleh.

No need for a PS1, silly

Though I think technically some of the PSX emulators support netplay? I mean, if we really wanted to play the playstation version of WZ21k, we probably could.

... I wouldn't suggest it, as the fans have improved the PC version a fair amount, but we could.

Uh, minor point of order, but valve had basically shit-all to do with DotA's champion roster.

Honestly, considering DotA's development has encompassed something like an entire bloody decade and spent a great deal of that shamelessly stealing ideas from other projects, it's not exactly a surprise it has a fair bit of variation in its skillsets and whatnot. Frankly, it's about the only thing approaching innovation the map has to its name (and is still notably weaker compared some other AoS maps :V).

Obviously not the only way, but giving the country a deterrent against other ones (like, perhaps, israel) that want to just up and kill them all, liberal elements included, definitely sounds like a means of support t'me.