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General Discussion / Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« on: March 01, 2015, 05:16:36 am »
Quote from: Rez on March 01, 2015, 12:55:52 am
How about that economic situation, though?  We're probably the least financially secure generation since the Depression and the Depression wasn't really accompanied by so much technological and societal change.
What about it? The economic situation isn't entirely caused by conservative ideology, but... it's not terribly far from it. Much of the current problem has been caused by either warmongering or letting businesses do whatever the blazes they please, both of which are more or less cornerstones of the GOP platform. And a lot of things I've heard proposed are basically "How to bugger the economy and (especially) the consumer 101". Admittedly neither side has a monopoly on those sort of propositions, but it often seems the GOP is particularly fond of them :-\

And hell, it's only been one of the parties that have been repeatedly threatening to completely destroy both the american economy and, to a large extent, the entire freaking world's. It's hard to turn to the party threatening nation-wide default for economic policy, y'know?

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General Discussion / Re: SCIENCE, the Higgs, and everything else!
« on: February 28, 2015, 11:15:02 am »
... so how would the bugplants interact with regulations regarding bugbits in food? Would they, like. Count? Somehow?

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: February 27, 2015, 11:46:13 pm »
Quote from: Baffler on February 27, 2015, 11:35:48 pm
Well if I didn't feel shitty before, I sure as hell do now.
D... don't feel shitty about it, bafflebreathren. You're not the one that decided to send nudes over the phone. You deleted them, as you should have, so you're good. Nothing to feel shitty about? Shouldn't be, anyway. You've... done nothing wrong. Hell, you're the injured party here, really. Pretty sure folks have won civil suits over stuff not much more extreme than that...

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General Discussion / Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« on: February 27, 2015, 09:49:24 pm »
*waggles hand* About as naive as
Quote from: GreatJustice on February 27, 2015, 07:55:47 pm
NN wouldn't be an issue since competition would drive companies that engaged in throttling into irrelevancy.
that.

Well. Except not, because net neutrality and the FCC rulings are kinda' different things, even if the latter is being purported to support the former. That there's something swiggly in the ruling is a fairly safe bet, though, sure. Seems at the moment to at least be better than the alternative that was (well, to be fair, still is, because the companies wanting this are going to keep sporadically fighting for it basically forever) rapidly approaching, for what that's worth.

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Dungeons and Dragons 3.5 Edition: Explorers of the Angaeron Ocean OOC
« on: February 27, 2015, 07:24:37 pm »
Quote from: Flying Dice on February 27, 2015, 05:14:20 pm
[...]and highly edible royal heirs. Appealing, of course, to lootmonkeys, murderhobos, RPers, and fetishists respectively.
And that's how I read it.

The Confectionaries in Sugarman Land. Delicious.

E: Wait, where am I even posting? FG&RP? How'd I end up over here...

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: February 27, 2015, 07:14:28 pm »
A churchmouse is a mouse found in a church. Nothing more and nothing less.

It's also the sort of mice found in churches.

Which is to say it's just a normal mouse.

The church add nothing.

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General Discussion / Re: SCIENCE, the Higgs, and everything else!
« on: February 27, 2015, 07:04:06 pm »
That, yes.

Alternately, you may make cyborg butlers as you please, so long as they're hired appropriately and are okay with doing the job.

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General Discussion / Re: SCIENCE, the Higgs, and everything else!
« on: February 27, 2015, 07:00:05 pm »
Quote from: lemon10 on February 27, 2015, 06:42:35 pm
Yeah, abortion issues in regards to AI is pretty small fries compared to the more fundamental issue: We will eventually be creating beings as intelligent than humans with the goal of them being slaves. Willing slaves, but slaves nonetheless.
Or we could always just not do that. Most people don't make kids for the express purpose of future laborers.

'Course, the AI will still have the issue of being able to support themselves (i.e. keep whatever computer is running them powered and repaired), so they might not want to go be a musician or whatev' to avoid the digital equivalent of starving to death in the streets, but eh. They'll likely have better tools to pull that off than most humans have.

I mean, really, we've had a few thousand years to get the hang of making intelligent beings without being brainfuckingly immoral about it. Admittedly not the best track record, but it's not like this is a complicated subject in and of itself. Made complicated pretty often, sure, but "Don't be a colossal dickwad to your offspring" is actually not some grand philosophical conundrum.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: February 27, 2015, 06:51:54 pm »
... collect samples?

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: February 27, 2015, 10:16:30 am »
... cryx might be thinking full on java? There's... quite a lot of sites that just plain won't run without javascript going. And quick googling says that is indeed the case -- chromebooks support javascript, but not java itself.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: February 27, 2015, 09:33:27 am »
Quote from: karhell on February 27, 2015, 09:29:58 am
Quote from: Cryxis, Prince of Doom on February 27, 2015, 09:27:53 am
well i cant use bay12 the rest of the day now because im at school .-.
The ignore list is your friend. It auto-hides posts from ignored users.
Only if javascript is on, unfortunately.

Most browsers do have an option to just straight disable image loading, though.

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General Discussion / Re: Soylent Green Is Real, People!
« on: February 26, 2015, 09:24:22 pm »
Relatively certain it's been said by the creator, as well as folks that have been trying it, that using soylant as a supplement and/or still regularly eating normal food is perfectly fine, though. There may be complications if you completely replace your diet with it and never ever eat anything solid, but... you don't have to do that.

Or if fiber's an issue, just... add some fiber supplements to your diet or whatever those things are. Or just regular food with fiber. Whatevs.

Beyond that, I would say with a pretty strong degree of certainty that it's perfectly possible to get back to a pre-soylant state later on in regards to eating other stuff -- long term liquid diets and how to wean off them aren't exactly new things.

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General Discussion / Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« on: February 26, 2015, 08:20:02 pm »
For what it's worth, you can find an article questioning the guardian's here, which includes police responses to the accusations in question.

I have zero knowledge of how reputable the chicago sun is, though.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you laugh today: Capitalism and murder
« on: February 26, 2015, 05:13:03 pm »
Eesh. Deep, exploitative negotiations over the ownership of a castle and surrounding land. In the process, character puts a rider on the cost for someone's shoes.

The best part is what comes after. Shoe-owner is incredulous and attempts to flee (to be fair, they're really nice shoes), and his friends pin him down, beat him, and steal the bloody shoes.

It... it's pretty great. I mean, how do you respond to that? What do you do when someone effectively calls out a hit on your freaking shoes?

---

Is from a... korean web novel, I think. Something like that. Called Ark. Somewhat similar in theme to Legendary Moonlight Sculptor, but different enough to be worth reading. And possessing a protagonist that's somehow even more casually immoral than Weed.

E: And when the shoes are handed over, the shoe-owner is there, crying over it. Glorious.

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General Discussion / Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« on: February 25, 2015, 04:01:08 pm »
That last bit is true, but the problem with that statement is your assumption that humans will actually be cheap labor in a robocalypse scenario. This is already categorically untrue in a number of industries -- certain forms of production literally can't be outmatched in terms of cost efficiency by human beings, regardless of how you go about it. And the number of industries for which that is true is increasing.

We're actually pretty cost inefficient, comparatively. You can't really match a specially designed machine for a task with one that, well, isn't. And we're not, for just about anything an advanced society does (which is why we build tools, robots, et al).

Really, if we get around to making something akin to human intelligence as an machine construct, we just to make sure to treat it well. There's not any particular other path that isn't horrifically immoral, terribly inefficient, or some combination thereof. And if we do get replaced... eh. The pride of the parent should be in being surpassed by the offspring.

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