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This one was some variation of ram. Bigger than your average U-Haul, honestly. Roughly the same size as an SUV, I guess. Not far from a hummer. One of those excessively large trucks sterotypeable as the sort rural men buy because their dick doesn't operate up to their expectations, basically.

Haven't drove any of those you mentioned, though. Sincerely hope I never do. Give me a nice, sane sized station wagon or something. Whatever means I don't spend the entire time feeling like I'm threading a needle made of flaming death and mangled wreckage.

Doesn't help that most of the roads around here are two lane, and some of them... rather small, still.

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Yeah, there's a certain degree of biblical support for a fiery hell. There's also support for a number of other sorts, of course, but let it never be said that consistency was terribly important to the folks spread out over a generation or two that actually penned the bible.

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General Discussion / Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« on: February 07, 2015, 02:46:22 pm »
Being a library, providing tutors, structure, resources... connections with other organizations, etc.

And SG, I've too much of a headache at the moment to comment (and will probably forget to later), but I could probably have been convinced to kill in my youth if it would have gotten those goddamn florescents replaced with less strident lighting. Even just turned off and opening the blinds would have been an incredible improvement.

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Buddhism has nothing to do with gods, generally. As a rule, it's apatheistic at "best" and generally more atheist or agnostic -- siddhartha said pretty straight up that things such as the existence or non-existence of gods are not questions worth contemplating. He was fairly dismissive of most metaphysical concerns, iirc, and most, if not all, buddhist traditions that came afterwards align pretty well with that. There are, of course, exceptions (Such as christian buddhists, natch), but to the best of my knowledge that's the trend.

Hinduism is something very different. In Hindu belief, gods -- all gods (and, frankly, everything else) -- are simply manifestations of aspects of the brahman, the true reality. Other religions fit into that quite well, especially alongside the natural fallibility of mankind. Christianity expressing aspects of the true reality, even if not with 100% accuracy (just as basically nothing human does, honestly) fits into that just fine. Christianity would simply be wrong about the only path to salvation being jesus. It would be one path, but not the only one. Error alongside truth does not invalidate that truth.

@chao: Brahma's actually something different from brahman :P The former is an aspect of the latter, though.

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Sweet blue hell but I hate hate hate hate hate driving large vehicles. The larger civvie trucks, etc. It's like there's no state of being with the goddamn things except going into traffic or going off the road, because you have no fucking room to maneuver without doing one or the other. I've now got a splitting headache and stress shakes, damnit all.

I would and will do it again if it means my grandfather's not driving himself around, but bloody fuck would my life be happier if they all spontaneously combusted the next time the driver leaves them.

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General Discussion / Re: Help me think of a name for my new cat!
« on: February 07, 2015, 11:37:45 am »
Name cat Dog, yes? Or Duck. Some other animal.

The last cat I had that was actually mine I named You. You was a good cat with a good name, until someone else let her out and she (probably) got ate/run over. The next cat I have will be named You Two.

Shank? Shank would be a good name. Food related and an ambiguous verb. Absurdity is important when naming things. Roofy would be vaguely amusing for a cat, as well, if a bit morbid considering the general conditions the term "Roof Rabbit" was coined under.

Lemon would be good, too! Fruit in general. Apricot? Apricot is a good cat name. Meringue would fit its coloring better, though, I think. It kinda' looks like a lemon meringue pie.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: February 07, 2015, 11:11:44 am »
If you were cheering for the Marines to burn that fucking forest, lets' hear it.
The marines were fornicating themselves with an idiot ball, too. I might have been more appreciative of them if they had burnt the forest to the ground -- you know, with suborbital bombardment or whathaveyou, instead of how they tried to -- but they didn't. Pretty but stupid, the movie was. One KKV would have solved that entire situation *grumbles vaguely*

We've actually had this general discussion before, though. Back in that movie nitpick thread, iirc.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: February 07, 2015, 10:49:26 am »
... it was pretty but stupid, iirc. That puts it at least on par with the space elf Avatar movie >_>

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: February 07, 2015, 10:11:22 am »
Rarely.
... it's more common than you'd expect, especially for lower-key stuff. 0-day releases are basically a mark of pride for many groups, so there's a fair amount of internal pressure to get 'em. A lot of stuff gets out before public release these days, especially given the prevalence of closed alpha tests and whatnot. Were pretty common even before then, really.

Biggest obstacle to such things is it's fairly rare they hit more general distribution for a bit -- they're often disseminated through IRC or whatev' to begin with, with whatever group is providing it working as a (usually temporary) gatekeeper.

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Yes, its true that people say they have found in many different places. But the thing is, only one can be right! Christianity doesnt allow for other religions to be correct at the same time. It just doesnt.
... what does one religion's insistence on being the only true one have to do with reality? Christianity is perfectly capable of being simply wrong on that point. Baldly asserting otherwise doesn't exactly provide support for the position -- you need some kind of justification, some sort of proof to suggest the position is true, otherwise there is zero reason to support that position over others who do the exact same thing. Of which there are many.

... unfortunately, as noted, there is nothing christian belief provides that isn't attainable elsewhere. Hell, none of it even requires religion -- moral codes are perfectly createable without substantiative metaphysical burdens, the various emotional/psychological states related to it are attainable via lifestyle choices or medication, the organizational aspects obviously constructible from secular means... the list just kind of goes on. S'nothing particularly unique to the belief system.

And you've got religions such as Hinduism, which is perfectly happy to hold that all religious belief stem from the same source. They've got a nice lil' explanation for it and everything. Why should one not believe that christian belief is just another aspect of the brahman? Just missing or misrepresenting a few key points. It's certainly a better explanation for the apparent viability of other faiths. Bit of inaccuracy or confusion even cheerfully explains stuff like the monolatrist/monotheist shift -- someone just got some bits wrong, lost stuff in translation, etc.

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General Discussion / Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« on: February 07, 2015, 01:51:14 am »
... waaaait a tick. Homeland Security funding is being held hostage? Isn't... isn't this a situation where we start hoping they shoot the metaphorical human shield?

Also that is just the weirdest goddamn thing for the GOP of all things to hold hostage. I mean, I know both sides are kinda' crazy when it comes to that, but isn't HS kinda' the GOP's baby? And they're threatening to drown it if we don't shoot throw out brown people?

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Only potentially. If the legal response to drug use was execution, "no murder" would mean more or less jack -- murder's referring to something fairly specific in that line. Probably a handful of other situations it'd bypass that particular stricture, too.

Christianity's not actually all that disinclined towards killing, though it's long tried to spin the PR to say otherwise.

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General Discussion / Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« on: February 07, 2015, 12:11:43 am »
States being what they are, I think they mostly refer to those as "raises", and disregard any virtues that don't result in them. Alternately, they are their own reward and whatnot. We could totally subsidize virtuous action, though, sure. It'd be nice to have more government support for non-profits and volunteer work and whatnot.

Also we totally give tax breaks for charity already, so *shrugs*

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Sorry, I just dont see that many similarities, thats all.
... largely identical moral codes and strongly similar metaphysical claims (which isn't exactly surprising, considering they both claim to worship the same thing), which is to say more or less all of it worth mention. There's differences, but they're both monotheistic abrahamic religions that have filled more or less the same social roles, with most of what that entails. To a fair extent they're more alike than not, really...

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Just pause everyone that's not currently being judged. Deep freeze or whatever. No reason those waiting have to be aware of the time passing, if you're dealing with something that can effectively kill off the entire species with a horn toot or whatev'. It can do that, it can knock you out for a few hundred years or however long it takes.

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