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Also, completely unrelated: Excel is a viable art program it seems :S

It's actually pretty good for pixel-style work. Spent a bit of time in one of the classes on it I had to meander through coloring cells into turtles and elephants and whatnot.

... not even remotely anything like that, though. That's kinda' ridiculous. Watched the whole thing through and I'm still not entirely sure how they did it.

Yeah, you're thinking of Megaman Zero, Tiru -- the GBA stuff. Legends is something very significantly different, continuity wise, insofar as I'm aware. Do note that, while that scene was touching (well, I'd actually call it terribly desperate more than touching, but...), it was set in a world where the vast majority of the human population is dead, most of the remainder is under a tyrant, and much of the world has been rendered an unlivable hellscape (that is also populated by varying degrees of rampaging deathbot). If I'm not misremembered, a great deal of the plot of one of the the Zero games is trying to find a place for humans to live again, what few remain. It's also a scene where, if plotnanigans hadn't happened and they found zero, the scientist being protected would have been very much killed.

And humans did survive in that one, obj. Just... not very many. It might have been the X continuity that eventually ended up with them all dead, I'unno. I forget exactly how the Zero/ZX and X stuff mesh, if at all.

... really, the base Megaman stuff -- not X, Z, or Legends -- is probably the least thematically horrifying of the major stuff, and it still has a madman (or two) regularly holding vast swaths of the world hostage and probably involves a terrifying number of off camera deaths. It's... something about the presentation of the games tends to lend to not paying attention to it, but they're generally set in what are genuinely terrible scenarios. If it's not a crapsack world (X, Z) it's basically a deathworld (Legends, Z, X after a while), and in several of them it's painful obvious the human species is barely existent or has been massively damaged.

Still, I'll give the game a shot. I didn't even know there was a third one...
Do you know the rough eta of the translation patch?

I don't think there even is an ETA

From what I can tell, it's one of those where (almost) everything is translated, but the folks working on it are having trouble with (getting somebody to do) inserting stuff. Last update (v8, which does a little bit of script and much of the menu etc. stuff, iirc) was in april, with possible release activity coming again in the next month or two, but final release day... no one knows, heh.

... the third one on the GBA has also been partially translated and is, imo, better than the first two, at least mechanically. It was good enough I actually got a good chunk of the way through it before there was any translation done. Did eventually give up because holy hell it takes away from things when you have literally no idea what anything says, but... still.

Quote from: Frumple on December 01, 2014, 01:07:12 am

... though note that Knights in the Nightmare is also a Sting game Takes a bit to crack open, but then you're in this wonky bullet hell SRPG and things are marvelous.

Oh god, is that the game with the hour of useful tutorial mode next to the story?

I... don't think so? Don't remember it taking an hour when I hit the tutorial in the PSP version, anyway.

I tried some Yggdra thing and found it excruciating at worst, perplexing at the best of times. I want to say it was the GBA one.

I will admit I've enjoyed generally enjoyed Sting's stuff* more once I started cheating away things like item durability, ha.

That said, Riviera on the GBA was the more confusing of it and Union, imo, and somewhat more painful to play. Still pretty neat, especially once you took the codebreaker to it, but... it was. Still, I'd actually call Union legitimately excellent, once you wrap your head around it, and Riviera still pretty good, just a bit... opaque? Sting's stuff tends to take some investment to get in to, for better or for worse. Though yeah the whole item system thing hurt worse than Fire Emblem, sweet gods alive. It almost physically hurt until I stuck in infinite durability cheats ;_;

... though note that Knights in the Nightmare is also a Sting game Takes a bit to crack open, but then you're in this wonky bullet hell SRPG and things are marvelous.

*With the exception of Treasure Hunter G back on the SNES. Which was pretty darn impressive, by the by, and much less experimental.

Round Two, FIGHT!

... good luck, neo.

_{though the fighting game framework would imply that you actually need to do this at least twice, counting this go, to win the three round match >_>}