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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 26, 2014, 01:21:37 am »
No, no, sloths are sloths.

... but nah, the sloth thing is noting a mammal that, while apparently occasionally green, is unusual in part due to that. Green is not normal for mammals, but sloths are a mammal that it is. Ergo, if flabort is having green, and is a mammal, they must be a sloth.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 26, 2014, 12:20:34 am »
... just to make sure, have other people confirmed this phenomena? Because perceptual oddities are a possibility, too.

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General Discussion / Re: The Roman Catholic Church: Equal Rites.
« on: November 26, 2014, 12:18:53 am »
It still doesn't answer why they don't like the freemasons. If anything, it almost sounds like they dislike the freemasons for being free thinkers.

Or I'm just not understanding the reason behind it as explained in wikipedia.
... significant and largely inimical differences in theological beliefs. Would appear to be the majority of the reason as stated?

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General Discussion / Re: The Roman Catholic Church: Equal Rites.
« on: November 26, 2014, 12:12:22 am »
... fits a bit with what I've countered, that does. The offer I had in regards to joining (from a member to myself, who was know to them to be pretty strongly irreligious) emphasized (and required) a belief in monotheism, but... not christianity or the abrahamic god figure. Know basically zog all about the group(s) beyond that, but yeah.

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General Discussion / Re: What is all this national defence guff?
« on: November 25, 2014, 10:33:06 pm »
By that point whatever it's called will depend heavily on how much that southern american thingummy comes along, methinks. I rather imagine a superpower brazil & co would be kinda' pissed about calling it Pax America. Unless they've renamed SA by then or something.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 25, 2014, 08:01:42 pm »
... that's not a knife?

*checks*

Huh. That may be the most menacing plate of cookies I've seen in a while. Bunny should be careful with that, brandishing something looking like that can get you shot in the states.

And then the rabbit baked a cookie with your blood aaaahhhhhhh

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General Discussion / Re: The Roman Catholic Church: Equal Rites.
« on: November 25, 2014, 07:29:33 pm »
... so no, not really. Ah well.

Or, well, it sorta' supports the possibility of a creative event (though, of course, that runs into the same problem all presuppositions of a creative event, regardless of its form, does, i.e. from whence it came), but that's about it. It's certainly no guarantee of power* (that great power is necessary to cause great acts is the silliest of concepts, as anyone having watched an avalanche go off due to a small rock hitting the right place would know), of a sustained force, or especially of anything even remotely resembling a creator god. Doesn't say anything about that event not being just some transcendent reality deciding to incarnate or whathaveyou.

You might be able to get transcendent (though complete transcendence is incredibly arguable, as such a thing would be incapable of interaction) and creative (though not in the sense of, say, an artist or an engineer, nor with any implication of intent) out of that, but... that's about it.

Of course, if you're pulling transcendent creative events out of the aether, logic taking a momentary hike and nothing creating something from nothing is just as plausible :P


*E: Well, of great power. A non-zero amount, sure, but no more than that.

E2: I guess the question being, how does this person (or folks holding similar convictions, I guess) defend going from non-specified creative event to, well, interventionist creator deity? I've actually seen some of the lines along that, and they're often pretty interesting. The logical conclusions that fall out are sometimes unintentionally hilarious.

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General Discussion / Re: The Roman Catholic Church: Equal Rites.
« on: November 25, 2014, 06:52:32 pm »
... can't really do youtube right now, but I do hope whoever that is has something better than that. It's never been a particularly compelling argument. If there was a beginner, it, too, must have had a beginner, and so on down the (infinite) line. Unless it just was, somehow, in which case there's no reason that reality couldn't have just been, just as well. Even if an igniting act, so to speak, was necessary, that in no way implies that act had to have an actor behind it. Spontaneous creation event is just as plausible as spontaneous creator creating creation event. Moseso, arguably, as you're making less random assumptions.

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Other Games / Re: League of Legends - Patch 4.20 - Weedwick
« on: November 25, 2014, 04:22:43 pm »
... I'unno, the thing that interests me is that tremorsense thing, I think. It says wide range movement detection (presumably outside of normal vision range?) but just how wide is wide? And does movement mean movement or...? Because on-call semi-long range champion detection (that also chains into other abilities, yeesh) sounds kinda' incredibly sexy to me. Screw bushes get rek'd. Ain't no hiding no more~

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The only problem is they tried that, and it got them tear gassed, beaten, media suppressed, and guns pointed at them. It may be pointless, but what the hell else do you do at that point? The powers that be are killing your people, violently suppressing dissent, and showing absolutely no interest in seeing anything positive done. Sure, it's pointless, but at that point so is everything. Setting something on fire is a pretty normal reaction in that kind of situation. Probably the wrong one, but at that point "fuck the world" is damned understandable.

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We don't bloody have that! It doesn't freaking exist!

Barring some unenforced BS lingering from decades ago, maybe. I won't discount that possibility.

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And that has absolutely buggerall to do with criminalizing extramartial sex, which you suggested the states have, apparently, done. Somewhere.

It's a mitigating factor because of emotional states, not because of anything regarding the adultery itself. The adulterer is under no criminal consequence for having done so.

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... that is only tangentially, if that, related to your average one night stand, casual sexual relationship, or non-marital long-term relationship.

That's also not law against screwing outside of marriage. That's law against, y'know, freaking murder. Last I checked, adultery is perfectly legal. Grounds for a divorce, sure, and sometimes (bloody rarely) a mitigating issue in regards to murder, but you don't throw adulterers in jail anymore.

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... what? I don't recall anything but the most absolute backwards of hellholes having laws restricting consensual extramartial sex, especially to the point of imprisonment for violators.

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General Discussion / Re: Bay12 Election Night Watch Party
« on: November 24, 2014, 10:29:03 pm »
... so the PD is already starting to lie? Or I guess they just never stopped or somethin'?

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