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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 12, 2014, 07:04:11 pm »
Is it some sort of program-related thing? Everyone in the accounting program is automatically assigned to the accounting society.

Hee hee, sounds like the most boring club ever.
I think the closest I came to that was after-class talking, which mostly consisted of trying to figure out how to commit tax evasion and fraud. The teacher(s) even joined in a couple times.

Uh. Know thy enemy and whatnot >_>

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Other Games / Re: Tome 4: Tales of Maj'Eyal
« on: November 12, 2014, 06:30:33 pm »
Mm... yeah, if you're having trouble getting some decent inscriptions, it's usually time for a shopping trip. You're almost guaranteed to find movement or teleport in one of the towns -- if not derth, then one of the two elf towns or last hope (or zigur, I guess, if you're not arcane). Racial towns, too, I guess. If you haven't gotten an upgraded regen/healing infusion by the end of the second or third tier 1 dungeon, it's probably time to swing by and trade up, even if you're not after an escape option.

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Other Games / Re: Tome 4: Tales of Maj'Eyal
« on: November 12, 2014, 06:20:35 pm »
... that... there's definitely something really zogging weird going on, because kor'pul should be an absolute cakewalk at level 14. Even the vaults shouldn't be notably risky at that point.

Still, in case of open rooms, get out, fight in corridors, etc. As noted, movement infusions or tele runes are really useful for that sort of thing. You never really want to fight more than one critter at a time, anyway (barring some oddities like brawlers, and honestly not even then most of the time).

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Other Games / Re: Tome 4: Tales of Maj'Eyal
« on: November 12, 2014, 06:06:33 pm »
They... shouldn't be? Biggest notable threat in them is opening the vaults that might generate.* Everything else is... fairly trivial. It used to be the actual starting zone for everyone, ha, but the shade was killing too many people so it got shifted elsewhere :P

What exactly is killing you inside 'em?

E: Though I rescind that statement if you're playing above normal. Talent level boosted skeleton magi are pretty vicious, from what I understand.

E2: Which, yeah, don't open those unless you've got a reliable escape method -- movement infusion or teleport rune, ferex. PD won't cut it. Maybe not even then... if you don't have the right tools, a ghoulking disease can be a guaranteed death that early in the game.

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Ah, cheers. Until I forget again next year, then.

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... that's coming up soonish, isn't it? I've forgotten when thanksgiving is, again...

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Different sellers, different time of year, different transport conditions, different products... all sorts of stuff can impact shipping time. No telling what it is this time.

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General Discussion / Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« on: November 12, 2014, 04:04:42 pm »
Let's see... Women being forced into medical procedures? "Maybe that's reasonable." Men paying for babies that THEY don't want? "That's not right!"
If that's referencing me, I never said that former thing. The latter? Yes, I do find that unreasonable. The man is FORCED to go along with the mother's decision, whether he likes it or not.

Also, in the case of a man that can't afford it? Ha, enjoy getting fucked over. Either you pay and live in utter poverty, or you don't, land in jail, and have to pay it later.
... leafsnail covered that well. No, the guy doesn't get a choice in the bits involving birth, beyond whether to screw or not (well, barring him getting raped, of course). Not his body, not his choice. Afterwards, either parent is equally screwed by child support related stuff. Child support is not an equivalent issue to carrying a child to term. At all.

Incidentally, last I checked, the guy isn't actually legally required to support the woman during pregnancy, nor provide medical coverage. When something like that does happen, it's usually due to other issues, so far as I'm aware. I know my father damn sure didn't help out financially during the hospital stay, but that may have changed over the years.

Note: You want to cut off the child support fees? Obtain custody, and then get the kid adopted.

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General Discussion / Re: Christian beliefs and discussion
« on: November 12, 2014, 02:54:20 pm »
I don't care what anything says, if you sell cakes and I ask a (legal) cake you have to make it. Just like I don't think a printer shop should be allowed to refuse to print messages it doesn't like(as long as they are legal.
Well... as noted, you're welcome to that belief, but it's very much in contrary to the legal situation in, at least, the US. Buying and selling is entering into a contract with one another, and there are very, very few situations in which you can force someone to enter contract with another person. It's a very basic, very fundamental part of contract law that provides the precedence for almost any business to refuse service to anyone, under any circumstance.

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General Discussion / Re: Christian beliefs and discussion
« on: November 12, 2014, 02:31:34 pm »
Nope. The issue at stake here is that the Bible specifically says that gay people should be celibate.
I'm... pretty sure it doesn't, actually. Specifically say that.

I mean. It's fairly easy to check. There's like seven lines total about homosexuality in the entire thing. And I can't really recall any of them stating appropriate homosexual behavior. Something like three general condemnations (mostly from some of the bughumping crazy bits of the text), and then a roughly equal number of statements against specific forms. That's about it.

We've actually trod over that subject a few times already, I do believe...

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General Discussion / Re: Christian beliefs and discussion
« on: November 12, 2014, 02:25:56 pm »
... whether it's a crime or not depends entirely on the laws in the area in question. There's circumstances in the US where the noted refusal could result in a potential civil case, but it's very niche and has absolutely nothing to do with the convictions of the people involved and absolutely everything to do with contract law and the violation thereof.* I don't know enough (read: I know basically nothing) about that place's law structure, so. Yeah.

I think it was fairly stupid from a business perspective to refuse, though. Money's money, and in this case the amount of influence a single cake can have is basically nil. And the thought that production of something == support of the thing's message is vaguely farcical, imo. Generally, when you've been contracted to do something, you're absolved from most association with the thing afterwards -- responsibility lies primarily with the contractor, not the contractee. Obviously, there's exceptions to that, but they're exceptions that prove the rule and tend to involve grievous bodily harm, not... cake.

But... coming from an american perspective, it's a silly thing. The owner has a right to refuse business on any grounds over here, in most industries. Just as people have equal right to protest, boycott, etc. They're also perfectly able to attempt civil suit against the businesses, they'd just, y'know, fail. But they generally can't really demand folks enter contract with (i.e. sell something to) them.

*Though that does change in certain industries. Public freight, ferex, has no right of refusal, iirc. Package could be wrapped in tear-outs from a homosexual porn magazine and they'd still be legally obligated to transport it, regardless of the convictions of the workers or owners.

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General Discussion / Re: Christian beliefs and discussion
« on: November 12, 2014, 02:00:40 pm »
I think it's a question not really suited for discussion in this thread :I

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General Discussion / Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« on: November 12, 2014, 12:21:51 pm »
One thing I find odd- a woman can choose whether or not to bring a child to term, but if the child's father disagrees he still has to pay child support.
The non-custodial parent pays child support. Child support's not really a gender thing. Custody is more arguable, but child support, not so much.

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General Discussion / Re: Bay12 Election Night Watch Party
« on: November 12, 2014, 11:49:17 am »
... wait, "dependence-producing potential"? That alcohol and tobacco already demonstrably have, yet are legal outside of medical and scientific purposes? What?

Though looking at the convention thing itself, it looks like tobacco wouldn't be a narcotic (sleep inducing drug, by the apparent definition). Alcohol definitely is, though. And it's clear. So the convention can screw off, the hypocritical arse.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 11, 2014, 11:47:18 pm »
Also, beards can be awesome, but they can also make you look like a rapist/homeless guy/WoW player, so you need to be careful with that one.
Also a mennonite or jew, among others, depending on where you are. There's an odd handful of cultural/religious groups that do the beard thing often enough and obviously enough it gets associated with them, in certain areas.

E: And BP was a fairly active israeli poster, tended to pipe up fairly often in the european/middle-eastern political threads. Just... a bit more nationalistic than could manage to maintain a comfortable level of discourse? Something along those lines, and being... somewhat more charitable than I have been in the past. Respect for the parted, or somethin'.

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