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That's not exactly the point vec's making, max. Plenty of folks (i.e. the wild majority) who are mentally ill don't shoot up schools, or even anything else. Something like a quarter of the US has an active mental illness diagnosis during any given year, and far all there's too goddamn many of them the number of school shootings is only about one a week (i.e. 50-55 out of something like 82 million, which is a percentage so low the calculator on this computer gives up and resorts to scientific notation).

Nevermind that the vast majority of gun violence happens outside of schools, quite a lot of it inflicted by people that would pass through a psyche screening like greased owl shit, disproportionately on people who wouldn't or haven't. Vec's 100% correct when they say someone mentally ill is more likely a victim than a perpetrator of gun violence.

Like, frankly, it's one of the complications with the intersection of mental health and gun violence -- while many folks committing the latter are mentally ill to some degree, the vast, vast majority of folks who are mentally ill are not even violent, much less murderously violent and willing to resort to shooting people. Much of what mental health services do aren't going to have anything to do with folks that are a shooting risk, because even if absolutely no one slipped through the (underfunded, hamstrung by conservative shitheels) cracks there's just not that many of them, and the way mental healthcare works just... isn't super good at identifying the ones that are.

It's one of several reasons why improved mental health services just wouldn't be a silver bullet, even if somehow conservatives stopped trying to sabotage it across the board and instead threw full throated support behind it in an effort to mitigate gun violence. It's just not very effective at identifying and preventing the problem in question. Good for a massive fuckton of other reasons, but... not that one.

... all that said, if you're looking for the most effective mental health service to provide to mitigate mass shootings in particular, well... studies have found (link to a vice report on one of them) that the single most pervasive commonality between shooters is that they're extremely likely (something like 70% or up, iirc) to be suicidal. So... suicide prevention would be the way to go, more than basically any and every thing else.

Coincidence that's one of the named and explicit targets of anti-school efforts by the GOP? One would hope it's just a coincidence, I guess...

It's been actively attacked by the GOP in particular (followed by insurance fuckers and their ilk, when they aren't one and the same) for at least as long as I've been alive. Falling apart isn't quite the right words for something buckling in the face of persistent and pervasive sabotage hitting the effects of a system wide plague like a barrel of shit thrown into a hurricane fan, y'know? Not that it isn't fairly literal for some of the more neglected hospitals, ha.

... that said, I actually haven't noticed much worse waits than what's been pretty usual most of my life? Like, it's definitely there and it's probably worse in some areas or specific specialties, but wait time has been weeks to months for most things as far back as I can remember. It's worse these days, but it's worse relative to a previous situation that was regularly pretty shit anyway, heh.

None of these words were written in the Bible...

Technically accurate, as nothing in the english language was. That saying should have pretty long legs in any conversation not in hebrew, greek, or aramaic

Meanwhile none of it is sanskrit, so we've all reciprocally fallen afoul of the vedas. With two non-overlapping holy texts, all words are outside their preview and we're collectively up the Holy Shit Creek of Quietude, with no words to describe a paddle and none to be seen.

I've had dreams where I came out of them staggeringly pissed off, yes, if quite rarely. Dreams for me are mostly pleasant things, though, so it's rare in general that I feel nasty shit in them (I do not like being angry, even a little, so it definitely would count).

I can't really think of any emotional state I haven't experienced in a dream, thinking on it. It's run the gamut at one point or another, for better or worse.

I definitely have memory of feeling the same sort of thing as when dealing with inhibitions, though, so I'd hard disagree we have no inhibitions in dreams. It's possible to have a dream like that, but it's not a guaranteed thing. You're going to be hard pressed to find many absolutely always there components beyond the very bare bones to a process that varies as much as it does between individuals.

i'm apparently getting too old for sleep scheduling interruptions

grandparent woke me up at 4:30 this morning, thinks they might have caught a stomach bug and doesn't need to be close to other grandparent, the one with fairly advanced dementia that can't go to the bathroom alone without, like, trailing shit everywhere afterwards

so like, i'm awake now, i don't get to sleep anymore

but in trying to email boss people 'cause like, not going to drive on sub 3 hours sleep and possible contagious illness, it took multiple tries to get the fucking email address right and I'm just like

i cannot human right now, please check back later

frumple needs their sleep, damnit, the more I run into stuff like this the more I'm finding I just do not have nearly the tolerance for sleep disruption like I used to, and it sucks really fucking hard because it's becoming more common instead of less

Quote from: Magmacube_tr on May 28, 2022, 04:34:09 pm

Which one of y'all would be a good villain and why?

Obviously I am as I steel all the toilet paper from gas station bathrooms!

metal plating bathroom toilet paper is a weird flex, but it's definitely in line with old school supervillainy, so...

Playing League of Legends in 2022.

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pack it up folks, we're done here