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Re: Progressive: Well, if you want to ask the doctor...

Broadly speaking in relation to american christians, it mostly means the ones tossing out/reinterpreting/pointedly ignoring the bugnut insane/bronze age/violently evil strongly socially conservative parts of biblical text. Trying to make their faith more butterflies and rainbows and love and less fire and brimstone and mass infanticide.

Basically the ones that don't think homosexuals are causing YWHW to curse the US, and whatnot. No clue if they use similar terminology in europe.

... that's... there's bits in the bible where YWHW actually does force/change what people choose to do? The bit that was shifted from Ra to YWHW was mentioned either in this thread or the broader one -- forcing the Pharaoh to harden his heart and whatnot. Critter's also known for its behavior mangling curses, too... s'pretty explicitly taken choice away from people at times.

Beyond that... was there any mention of scriptural basis for their position?

Though the know-but-not-force thing... is explicitly stating predetermination. If YWHW already knows what you're going to do, then... you're going to do it. Choice is illusory, in that scenario -- there's only one path that can be taken, because the path is already known. You think you have choice, but you... don't, really. Just the belief that you do. _{Which plenty say is enough, in and of itself -- and I wouldn't really disagree -- but it's definitely a scenario without actual choice.}

Neat that you're getting contradictory responses from the same denominational base, though.

Though I'm very mildly surprised no one responded to "I made the choice to poke you." with "Did you? How would I be able to tell?" As fruitoyo mentioned, it wasn't really an argument against predetermination. At least not one that wouldn't get knocked over in a high-school level philosophy class, heh.

And yeah, cheers for asking.

... caterpillars are apparently actually pretty damn speedy, when they want to be. Manged to prod one of those fairly sizable spiky black ones into scooting about. I was kinda' impressed. Little bugger managed some decent movespeed, for something stereotypically considered slow.

E: Other house person wanted to squish it D:

Didn't let them, but D:

Live, speedy spike-beast, live!

@SG isn't it mostly because of that "hate all the other congresscritters" thing? That and most people not really knowing what the hell their representatives are doing. Between tribalism and ignorance...

E: Ah, and the gerrymandering. Never forget the gerrymandering.

Bingo. 420 blaze it, i.e. legalized weed vs 210, uh. Char it? but this isn't gundam Being medical cannabis.

Gato comes back from the dead as basically Zed. Remainder of the new series details the tribulations of Konoha's giant seal-powered robot pilots in their battle against giant animals. *desultory* Go go power ninjas.

The entire thing will be brought to popular ascendancy by the inclusion of the giant hiruzen head. End episode will actually be giant sarutobi robot piloted by the seal-trapped soul of the God of Shinobi laying a smack down on the entire elemental nations and kicking their shit back in order. It will achieve critical notoriety as the best last minute plot twist ever written into an anime.

Yeah, florida was off from 210 by about 2.5%. Kinda' disappointed, it would probably have helped the legal system down here a bit. Not as much as full 420, but eh. Irritating thing is a majority was for it basically everywhere. Just... not enough of one. Meh.

Sitting in the middle is not "transcendence", misk.

It's called "spitroast".