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Well, as a decent human being, yes, that's what you're supposed to do. The question wasn't that, though

BP actually mostly got it. Technically speaking, all three of them have "kill the sinner" (often rather horrifically) as part of their scripture when it comes to sinners, to varying extents. Christianity has arguably the most scriptural wiggle-room when it comes to that, iirc, but the message is still there and there has been historic incidences of cultural groups claiming to follow the religion doing some pretty disgusting shit towards perceived sinners.

Of course, most of them have strictly contradictory messages to that directive, too, but hey, what's an abrahamic religious text without contradiction?

The actual measure has indeed been highly cultural. It's actually fairly rare, from what I understand, that any particularly religiously influenced country will execute or torture those that sin in the eyes of the religion in question, or go out to kill non-believers, etc., etc. With the exception of the obvious immoral sins (murder and theft, mostly.), they're generally just kinda' ignored.

As to the supposed aspect, I'll actually bow out on that one. So far as I'm aware, all three of them, roughly speaking, want to talk people in to avoiding sin, but how it's gone about varies heavily enough based on culture, time, denomination, etc. that I wouldn't be terribly comfortable making much of a summation. Mostly because, s'far as I know, there isn't an actual summation to be made, since doctrinal or traditional guidelines for interacting with the sinful vary just that much.

... the ones here are just below shoulder height, yes.

Could get ones a bit over my head, too, though. Could a month or two ago when I kicked that dangly light chain* thing, anyway.

Legs are for whatever they can be used for, though. Standing is but one of many applications. Door opening and closing are among the simpler ones. Scratching, moving things, etc., etc. Plenty of uses beyond standing.

*As for the why, there. It is one of those dangly light chain things. I didn't kick it very often, but during the period I've lived in that particular house, I have developed a compulsive habit of swatting the thing. And the ones in this house. Anything like them, really. Dangling chain-things are for batting aronud.

Foot would be good for the population's general flexibility, though. Would just probably mean more people wearing sandals and whatnot.

I feel kinda' alone when I'm the only person in the immediate family willing and able to close a microwave door with my feet

We have four limbs, damnit. We can use them.

Only if they're making significantly below the poverty line, in most places. Secondary solution: Pay no one in amounts that include consecutive sixes.

Also another 10k+ words of lore, 20 or so artifacts, buncha new talents to go with the class/race additions, stuff like that. It definitely feels like a relatively minor dlc, but I'd been meaning to throw a little at T4 for a while, so *shrugs*

E: *brushes little tear away* My gravestone's still there~

Had almost forgotten that was there. The Legless Jack one is a frumple suggestion, heh.

... to be an extent of fair to the sanctimonious fucks, I've actually pretty commonly had smokers fifty goddamn feet away fuck up my breathing. Ruddy crap gets around, it does, and when you've got lungs particularly susceptible to the stuff (i.e., I've had cigarette smoke exposure literally knock me unconscious before), it can be noticeable. Usually try to avoid the cough, because I don't like ruddy coughing, but sometimes there ain't no stopping it.

They may just be sanctimonious fucks, though.

Of course I'm not. I've met plenty of people who either don't have or have overcome those influences from their religious beliefs. I've unfortunately met considerably more that haven't, and from what I've seen in history religion has definitely been one of the stronger geopolitically divisive forces. One of those traditional things that ends up separating neighbor from neighbor, even in the face of otherwise substantial commonalities.

As for you, I don't really know you well enough to say. It does seem like you're trying to avoid that sort of inclination in your understanding of both your own, and other's beliefs, which is good.

But at the same time, I've also seen you condemn actions for no reason but your religious beliefs. So the effect is there, even if on the net you're avoiding that kind of behavior.

And I don't see what everyone has against it, for the most part they teach people to be less violent and selfish

The biggest problem (or at least one of them) is that the strong majority of them are inherently divisive. It leads to believers looking down on non-believers, fostering in-group/out-group division... all sorts of stuff like that. They are means by which people tell others, "You are not like me."* Functionally, that's an inherently dehumanizing element -- it's saying that those others are somewhat less human than you, for they do not know the "truth" and will not convert to it, making something about them "wrong". And that's the sort of thing that assists in leading to all sorts of nastiness, even when it's not the explicit cause.

Basically, while their words may teach peacefulness and selflessness, their structure inculcates the exact opposite -- divisiveness, conflict, and a lack of consideration for other people (non-believers, particularly). That's where the problem arises.

*Of course, religion is not the only mean through which that message is passed, but they've historically been one of the strongest and most immediately obvious, as well as the most common excuse even when the underlaying reasons are different. They're also one of the least tractable and least capable of reaching compromise with other ideologies.