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Dream brain has informed me that mixing ketchup and chocolate syrup together is either good, or something only a supervillain would do.

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anyway, there's still enough time to add stuff to this afternoon's grocery pickup, so I guess I'm going to find out which one it is

KGB successor, russian secret service bunch, according to google. Sorta' fits with the theme, so it's probably them.

Tell that to a narcoleptic

I'm... roughly 80% sure there's been some 4x or RTS that did use the concept of "undead (mostly) weak, but no upkeep" in their design. Not, like. Super well, or otherwise decently enough for me to remember anything specific about it, but. Undead having a logistics advantage to some degree is pretty common design, if usually not particularly interestingly implemented. It generally just means, fairly literally, they don't have a gold or food cost or whatever, with major implications beyond that missing in action.

Closest I think I've seen to a "good necromancer" thing is... maybe Dominion's Well of Misery? It's a neat global spell that basically makes life better across the entire world, and will probably get rapidly tore down because it's also funneling all the world's misery into gems of concentrated death magic for the spell's caster to use to violently murder their opponents. It's neat stuff, heh.

About the closest I can recall running into recently to magic university type things having a major(ish) effect is... probably Wizard Warfare? It's a knockoff MoM thing, both fairly cheap and pretty pared down, where its magic type buildings add caster squads to the city's garrison, and not, like, weakened ones or anything. Full on, full power casters, which are very not cheap otherwise. It's legit fairly impactful, if otherwise pretty boring, heh. Memory's telling me I'm forgetting something on that front, too, but, y'know. Can't remember, ha. Folks have definitely played with that a little over the years, though. Total agreement playing with it more could be neat.

I’d love some organic magics, not "effect magics".

Example, if a raise a volcano, it doesn’t do "20% damage to all units", but it... raises a volcano.

y'know, I thought this was about to get a lot more interesting than it did, but you lost me when you didn't start talking about heretical meat volcanoes and its fleshy terror ejecta

i'd be here for some seriously wild bioshaping, geographical scale shoggoth that shit, no hyperbole when you speak of devouring neighboring nations

One or two of those may be new compared to MoM. Well, more than I thought at least. Diseases and disease magic would be amazing to see really fleshed out in a game.

I want to say both Ruinarch and the latest Total War Warhammer game both did some relatively interesting stuff on that front... pretty sure there's a couple more I'm forgetting, too (and hell, DF plays around with it a bit, even). Then there's the actual disease simulator games out there, which could be an interesting vector to pursue. Basically strapping one of those onto another game could provide some room for neat gameplay interactions.

Fantasy plague stuff is definitely something that hasn't had much play in the gaming world, though. It's extremely rare it gets any more unusual than a fairly standard zombie apocalypse type deal or super basic debuff stuff, and that's not even scratching the surface of what's out there when it comes to diseases and magic (or sci-fi, for that matter) interacting.

Nah mate, if you're here, you're Pathos, just like the rest of us. There's no "me" to keep it from us, we've already got it. Only way to stop that would be to discard it yourself and hope no other Pathos picks it up.