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Eh? Whachoo mean, Dark? Most of the extended list is fairly straightforward, barring the occasional dip into addon/coding stuff...

I... guess it's rage? I dunno. But. Old people. Rustoleum and an interior primer are not the same thing. And the former is really not supposed to be used when your only meaningful ventilation is half a screen door.

Incidentally, I've come home from painting, for a few hours, after the dizziness kicked in

Hopefully when I head back it won't be quite as much as a deathtrap.

Last I had paid attention, Google 180'd on a number of the ostensibly "good" positions it had held previously. Particularly relating to privacy, censorship, and net neutrality. It being a major campaign contributor these days doesn't fill me with terrible much in the way of confidence, heh.

As the article noted, tech companies in general are already leaning conservative, contribution wise, just so they have an easier time exploiting their customer base.

Are you seriously suggesting that Caster behaves obediently?

I certainly wasn't. Even though she does kinda' chill after getting the deadly assassin snugglebuddy, the casters in general were something I explicitly noted as being likely to go off the rails. Which... as far as I can remember,* most of servants that go strongly AWOL are either Archers, Casters, or significant system errors. Otherwise they seem relatively likely to toe their master's line, given the option.

Whether that's due to the command seals, personal inclination, or other reasons, it's hard to say. But as noted, I could definitely see the grail screwing with the heroic spirit's head, or at the very least making sure they're matched with a servant that's compatible with them.

*And my memory can definitely be buggered, here -- I don't have terrible much exposure to the non-fate/stay night line, and even that not through the actual VNs. Mostly the anime, manga, copious amounts of fanfiction, and stumbling across a vaguely offputting amount of nasuverse discussions.

The problem is that, for example, Lancer is an arrogant bastard who doesn't look like he likes to serve other people. And he's just a hero, not a *spoiler*. Archer is in a dimension of his own in terms of snarkiness. And others are more or less like that, with an exception of... hold on a minute.

Doggy lancer (I'm not terribly familiar with the rest of them, actually) honestly just wants a fight, iirc, and doesn't much give a damn about anything else. While he'd definitely rather be running around kicking stabbing stuff in the face, the whole prana-maintenance means he's fairly willing to go along so long as he gets a fight sooner or later. That he listens at all is likely due to either the command seals hanging over his head, said maintenence, or, well... other influence, which I would kinda' expect given the situation. Similarly, normal Archer, is, well Counterpoints from the mainline, you've got both Berserker and Assassin who are pretty much in line without trouble ('zerker flips out in a fight, but that's mostly a class thing -- dude's fairly chill outside of it), and Rider who listens pretty closely despite kinda' loathing her main master . Given that most of the folks involved I'd say it actually makes sense the system involved in the war is doing some subliminal nudging towards obedience, or at least cooperation. Most of the possible exceptions are either exceptions (Saber, ) or one of the classes that are capable of significant independent action (i.e. archer, which have it as a class feature, or caster, which are the most likely to be able to short-circuit the grail system). Most of the other ones (which make up a majority) are... fairly tame.

Least that's how I've seen it, anyway.

Oh aye, but those factors are fairly ubiquitous to all markets, not just the developing-human-being one(s). Puberty et al is fairly unique to the age group.

Spoiler: Saber (click to show/hide)

I've always been baffled at how the supposed king of England, rules of countless knights and the Round Table, has zero commands skills and allows herself to be controlled by a 17 year old Shirou. I'd expect the King Arthur to be more commanding and inspiring, rather than just being a "stab stab slash"-type

Eh, there's plenty of potential explanations for that. The obvious one is that it just doesn't come up in the scope of the series -- Saber seems to strongly be a more "lead by example" (the example, largely, being wide scale unstoppable mass slaughter) than... posing and speeches and similar such silliness. Lacking a situation where there's major geopolitical shenanigans (and, iirc, the series actually pretty strongly insinuates that Saber was kinda' terrible at that sort of thing -- great at inspiring loyalty in a select few, less great at managing a nation), she has no need for such things anyway and it just... doesn't happen.

To boot, Saber's working with something like 3-4 other people (most of them, y'know, basically civilians) at once, at the most, and is completely lacking in what would be her normal supporting infrastructure. It's entirely possible she kicks several kinds of inspirational ass when she's got her full field command on hand, but I don't think we ever see anything along those lines.

Also: She's totally got B class charisma (And remember, something like E class charisma would have put her on par with normal maximal human capability). Which basically means that the only reason we don't see her diplomance the surrounding nations into her thrall is that Nasu she didn't want to write that story.

Though something like rejiggering the conflict into something like a modern day Game of Thrones might be interesting, if it weren't for the fact that
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Her working with shirou is pretty easy to explain. Dude's got better info, is the only thing keeping her around for very long, and is generally working towards the exact same goal she is. No real reasons to clash all that hard, and it's not like they're entirely without interpersonal conflict. Plus the two of them just happen to get along pretty well. * Frumple performs the eyebrow waggle of not-so-vague innuendo. *

... mitigating circumstances, basically. A whole heaping pile of mitigating circumstances.