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I'unno, to me it reads a bit stronger than that. That's part of it, but the lines seems to be saying less "Do good in the name of god before you do good in the name of social gain" and more "Do good in the name of god while actively avoiding social gain from doing so." Which is a pretty major difference! Like, hugely different implications. The first is kinda' wishy-washy, the second is  more "Giver, put first on your ninja tabi then donate in shadows". Second also seems a bit more in line with the surrounding bits, particularly those on prayer. Matthew seems fairly concerned about public displays of religion, heh, at least in that part of the text.

Yeah, death bed conversion would be less like showing up and working for a hour and more like not working at all and knocking on the dude's door later that night asking for money for services rendered.

Which, okay. Generosity's nice and all. Kinda' defeats the purpose of the rest of the religion, though. Why all the fire and brimstone bullshit if whoever's up top is just going to shrug and let whoever in, regardless of what they did? Why put millions upon millions upon millions of people through hell on earth if you're just going to open the gates regardless? Sounds less like a critter who's generous and more like a really fucked up frat member. "Hey, you just got raped and then impaled! Awesome! Here, have an eternity in heaven! That death rates a 50, you get 5 virgins. Can't really do anything with them up here, but hey, thought that counts, amiright?"

... honestly, though, from what I recall Matthew was a bit of a bro in places, moreso than many of the other critters the varying books were attributed to. That parable could have just been the guy* giving a hearty "Fuck you" to the rest of the biblical texts. Book's got some other lines that warms my cockles with a similar sensation, really. As I've noted, I'm fond of 6:1-34, since most** of it's a cheerful "Get bent" to the church structure and general worship patterns seen in organized religion

*E: Well, whoever the hell actually wrote the thing. Whoevers. However it works.
**E2: And what isn't is effectively an "Up yours" to eschatology, which is basically the rest of Christianity. Set of lines that mostly demolishes organized worship and like 9/10ths of the metaphysical concerns of the religion, it's pretty great.

God this one is bugging me.

Uprising, mebbe? Alternately, check back here, which sounds like it might be a conversation talking about the same thing, or at least something very similar.

... does it have klezmer and noise music?

... what's a lew rong generation? It sounds vaguely like some kind of mangled racial slur.

Your first sentence was accurate, II.

Your second, less so.

But yes, most music has been fairly mediocre over the years. Most entertainment, period. Wozzname's law or observation or whatev' it was. Quite certain back in the old days Australopithecus complained to each other about how the new rock hitting sounds worse than the old rock hitting.

... if you don't have the capability to discern good from evil, nothing is enough to know something bad is going to happen from doing something. You literally can't tell good from bad, or even identify either as something unusual or noteworthy. Understanding of consequence period is likely to be impossible. We're talking entities that, were they capable of being burned, would probably not be able to connect the dots between sticking their hand in a fire and pain. "Fire bad" wouldn't be a thought they could think.

Humans in their situation would be considered to have pretty serious brain damage, or be very, very young.