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Do you truly think that if someone presented unalienable evidence that Mr X (a major newspaper critic) had sex with Mrs Y (a major artist or whatever) and then wrote great things about her work, a shitstorm wouldn't kick up?
A shitstorm would kick up, for a few days, and nothing of substantial effect would come of it. Just like what has happened with every other major scandal that's occurred in relation to a major news operation for the last ever.

And even after the pointless, ratings humping newsfrenzy that flew up over the issue, no one with sense would think it's happening enough to be worth worrying over. Scandal, yes, problem, no. Much more pervasive and sundry corruption issues infest media venues that aren't functionally built around bribery, to say nothing of gaming media.

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The above series of events is the only thing I care about in this whole mess and the people defending that behaviour is the very reason games journalism is not respected as real journalism.
No one I've noticed is actually defending the behavior. Everything I've seen so far is simple incredulity at the fact that people believe an incredibly minor scandal that isn't even a meaningful drop in the corruption bucket is something other than it is. Frankly, journalism itself, period, world over, has largely lost all tracery of "real" journalism, which has been functionally dead on the large scale of things for decades.

I'd be worried about turning tricks for good PR if I thought it was actually happening enough to meaningfully impact anything. Which I don't. If you're looking for the actual source of corruption in gaming media, you've got all those wonderful bribes -- from money, to free games, to special access to certain events, and so on -- that are outright industry standard.

S'considerably more strange that so few seem to say anything about youtube reviewers getting free and early access from game devs, gaming media in general having free and early access, the overt bribe that is media access to stuff like PAX or whatever's in vogue these days, and so on. Blatant, bald face bribes directly to reviewers -- self-styled journalists effectively getting outright paid, by the developers, to make reviews for games -- and pretty much no one says a single solitary thing about the outright ethical fuckup that is. That, more than anything, is why gaming media isn't "real" journalism. It's been a joke since the first time a magazine said "yes" when a company offered a free copy for review, however many decades ago that was.

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Just imagine a reporter at cnn having sex with the boss of some start up company and then proceeding to write fluff pieces for that company, the backlash against cnn would be immense but here for some reason the opposite is true. It doesn't even matter if the product is bloody amazing, the journalistic piece will still be tainted and should have been written by another person.
No... I'm pretty sure no one's actually given a damn about print/TV media screwing clients and then writing good bits about them, which has no doubt happened plenty of times over the years. Honestly, I've yet to see a scandal of any sort meaningfully impact a major news venue. Think the worst dustup I can recall was that bit with phone tapping, which barely did anything of note. Modern news in general has become corrupt to the point most folks with sense ignore everything that comes out of it, for good reason, and whatever kerfluffles that do pop up regarding integrity blow over in days.

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... spicy lady batman. That. Hrm. Bruce crossdressing flamenco style?

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: August 26, 2014, 07:49:00 pm »
... no, to be honest, if baug is good enough at whatever baug does to convince people to let their nipples be used as coat hangers, I rather imagine baug has many friends of varying genders. Possibly species, as well. The amazing elephant coat rack! Double entendre for all!

Alternately, there are non-organic nipples. Word's used for a fair number of things.

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Hey, I didn't know they allowed internet access to insane asylums.

Huh.
... why wouldn't they? I mean, I could see blocked access to specific patients, but even beyond the staff probably needing access, limited or controlled (hell, outright unfettered, in some cases) access to the net is almost certainly good for certain therapies. Family/friend communication, if nothing else.

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It's 2330, I'm allowed to have bad ideas.
It's only 2014 here, and your words fill me with sadness. Apparently the future has time travel and uses it to excuse stupidity. Also refuses to do freaky time loop stuff so as to watch self slice self up instead of actually experiencing it.

Verily, temporal manipulation has made our people lazy and callow.

E: Also, give me your future genetic manipulation/cybernetic replacement technology. Some massively fucked up part of our evolutionary history decided it was a good idea to have jaw problems make your eyes hurt, and I currently want to both viciously violate some part of space time for that cockup and tear out my goddamn eye. Well. That and fix the problem. Intelligent design is a rip, I want to trade my creator for someone that actually had an int score over 2.

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Other Games / Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« on: August 26, 2014, 05:07:16 pm »
Maan, those words. Callin' chaos evil space gods. That's just silly -- the worst sort of imperial propaganda. They're the space gods of hope, love, passion, and the strive toward perfection. Not evil at all. Maybe a little aggressive in terms of acquiring converts, but still. They only want what is good for mankind!

Also worth noting that good ol' god emperor is quite possibly the space god of order, and the atrocities done in his name are at least as bad >_>

... now I want to be able to corrupt my chapter. It'll be nice if we can eventually do that.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: August 26, 2014, 01:18:42 am »
Nah, it seems to pretty explicitly be (posts / (local time - date registered)). Active time definitely isn't involved. Maybe get someone in here with some muted time to find out if there's variance there (doubtful), but that's pretty much dead on for me. Technically it's 4.5557784912, but the forum rounds to three digits so *shrug*

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: August 25, 2014, 10:11:46 pm »
Nah... I don't really think it was the argument itself. Iirc, Gryph had expressed dislike for B12's guidelines in the past before, especially re: personal attacks. Seemed to have trouble in general about refraining from making, well. Posts like the one before deciding to leave. Guessing G finally decided hanging around wasn't worth staying within the general rule set, and moved on. Which... best of luck, et al. Said my peace already, I guess.

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Never. Too late. For lasers.

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It's never too late for lasers.

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... can we not have a discussion on racial slurs in the middle of the freaking happy thread? Please?

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Actually, from what I understand neither taste particularly good. Particularly ones that aren't specifically raised to be eaten. Is reason folks try not to eat wild dog, and why roof rabbit is a desperation food.

That said, Lovecraft was an unapologetic racist, from what I recall. Think there was some oddities involved, but... mostly, at the very least, yeah.

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... well, do remember you generally don't have to go straight from dealing with bullshit to burning the house down. Usually a middle ground to between tolerance and full ignition... if you want to achieve it.

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General Discussion / Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« on: August 25, 2014, 06:19:57 pm »
As I said above, I'm pretty sure that if that cop identify you to the disfranchised white population, your luck will be barely better if it's better at all than if you're part of the disfranchised black population. I heard the term "wh*te tr*sh" used.
Think I fixed a typo in there. Though -- I've lived in areas that's about as much trailer trash (the more inclusive term, though honestly, white trash is barely a slur in this country, or at least the parts of it where trailer trash is common) as not pretty much my entire life. You would be hilariously wrong. Yeah, a homeless white guy or panhandler is probably going to be harassed by the cops. But they're not going to be harassed as hard, nor is the probability of harassment as high to begin with, as a homeless black fellow would.

And again, as has been noted. Domestic disputes in poor areas? Black family, shit is probably about to go down when the cops hit the scene. White family, chance of shit going down considerably less likely. Same social situation. Same extent of disenfranchisement. Literal only difference is skin color. There's patterns like that throughout the entire freaking country.

US has issues with classism, sure. Lotta' hate for poor people. But the country absolutely has a racism issue, that is distinct and separate (albeit definitely interacting) from the classism one. The country has definite and systemic issues with treating people of color, particular black people, disproportionately poorly. Definite and systemic issues with treating poor people disproportionately poorly, too, but no, it's not the classism being misconstrued as racism.

Can understand why you have problems wrapping your head around it -- you're from a very different cultural area. But. No, there's not another explanation for what's going on in the states. Country, and particularly the legal system, is in fact pretty damn racist. Not really as bad as it used to be, but it's still pretty bad.

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