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General Discussion / Re: ASMR Thread
« on: March 17, 2014, 05:07:13 pm »
For me it's got nothing to do with whispering and everything to do with trying to get lost in music that I like. Which usually, far from being quiet and slow, is loud and upbeat. Heck, I just managed to recreate a small sensation listening to good ol' Smooth McGroove.
Mmhmm... I one of the earlier times I can remember experiencing it was with Chekan Winter, back when it first hit OCR on the affiliated album, though I was definitely running in to the effect a good five or six years earlier. Still have an easier time with very high energy and/or heavy stuff.

As for at-will, I've personally found it's a matter of practice. It was definitely weaker in the beginning, but after a point (several years of off and on focused intent on triggering, maintaining, and enhancing, the sensation) at-will matched involuntary and at this point I get the biggest hits, so to speak, when it's at-will mixed with and supporting an involuntary trigger (like the noted music, or particular visual or tactile triggers). Maintaining a fairly intense, almost full body "charge" for a full 3-5 minutes is pretty normal these days, which can be quite nice. Tends to have a very interesting ebb and flow to it for the longer sessions, as well~ Quite dynamic, energizing stuff. S'fun, heh.

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General Discussion / Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« on: March 17, 2014, 04:39:44 pm »
I personally don't consider invasion as reasonable grounds for ethnic purging. If a country A with a dominant nationality X invades another country B, it is still morally wrong if country B responds by killing/deporting all the X people in its borders.
Wouldn't have to go that far, I imagine. Just don't allow russian as an official language and refuse further russian immigration and let the problem sort itself out.

Though it's not quite as clear cut as you present, KT. If it were like that, then yeah, but when Country A is using the existence of Nationality X in Country B as the reason for invasion... well, it's perhaps not moral to want (and perhaps encourage, so long as it doesn't come to violence) members of Nationality X to gtfo, but at that point it might not be immoral, either. Not when having the ethnicity in your border is a literal existential threat for your nation.

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General Discussion / Re: ASMR Thread
« on: March 17, 2014, 02:30:03 pm »
You can probably experience the same tingle by listening to music that you really like, or a few other things, and it's pretty mundane when it comes down to it. Sure feels nice though.
No need for probably, my initial experience with it was explicitly music, and it's since became a fairly simple trick. Doesn't really seem to be much to it, given some practice.

Couldn't say if having a degree of control has made involuntary responses more or less common, though. Never really thought about it, now that I think about it.

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Haha, no meow. I've got 99 problems and hiding a body is every single one of them. Fine way to spend an afternoon, that.

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Ch. You misspelled "human" Siq.

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General Discussion / Re: Religious Debate
« on: March 17, 2014, 11:12:08 am »
... as has been said before, if a topic is made specifically to bleed off an argument from another thread, it probably shouldn't be made.

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In order to join such an organization, they would first have to change it's basic laws. Why join something for the purpose of making it something that it isn't?
To... make it better. Or the world better. Or help people. Y'know... stuff like that? And in the case of stuff that's not central to the identity of the organization,* it doesn't really change the organization's core identity any.

*And discrimination against homosexuality is about as core to christianity as stoning people who wear mixed fabrics to death or celibacy among their priesthood.

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General Discussion / Re: ASMR Thread
« on: March 17, 2014, 09:44:53 am »
It's ultimately not really important, no, just like visual snow* isn't except in edge cases. But yes, people do tend to care when they're suddenly experiencing mostly-inexplicable sensory experiences. No telling what it means on the neurological level, other than "Probably something", since actual research is still more than a little spotty.

Beyond that, it's generally reported as a decently effective relaxer, which is pretty much always going to be important in an increasingly high stress world.

But nah, not a thing now, per se. S'like I said, I'm pretty sure the sensation has been a thing folks have been caring about since... hell, if I'm right in the sensation being related to stuff on chakra theory, you'd be looking at something like 600 BCE at the latest. Stuff started being talked about at least as far back as the Upanishads. It just got assigned a more westernized name recently.

*Which I keep bringing up because they're really damn similar phenomena.

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General Discussion / Re: ASMR Thread
« on: March 17, 2014, 09:20:48 am »
So this is a pleasant tingle based on certain sounds basically?
Sound s'probably the most common trigger for it, anyway. Not the only one, though. I can personally trigger it just through a change in breathing pattern, and I've had it trigger involuntarily due both to visual and tactile sensations, beyond sound.

E: Though sound is probably the easiest trigger, for me. There's a definite subset of music that predisposes me toward tingling, ha.

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General Discussion / Re: ASMR Thread
« on: March 17, 2014, 08:53:04 am »
Pretty close to it, anyway.

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General Discussion / Re: ASMR Thread
« on: March 17, 2014, 08:44:25 am »
Eh, s'far as I've heard (and experienced) the sensation itself is pretty identifiable. Feels a lot like a weak static charge on your skin. Maybe a bit like your limbs waking up after falling asleep, but more muted and definitely not painful. If you've felt that, it's, well, that. It's tingly.

Mind you, as MSH's post notes, nobody really knows what the blazes the stuff is. It's entirely possible it's not one thing but a set of things, each with different causes but having similar symptoms. Kinda' like visual snow, haha!

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General Discussion / Re: ASMR Thread
« on: March 17, 2014, 08:28:50 am »
Yeah, that stuff. I've so far personally met two people (Including myself :P) that can trigger the sensation more or less at will. Seems to be a not-uncommon (or at least not unknown) side-effect (?) of learning meditation, specifically the breath control side of it.

Since the point I was aware the thing had a name, I've always had the sneaking suspicion the effect is tied, probably strongly, to the whole chakra stuff. The sensation does have a notable tendency, from what I've experienced and heard described, to kinda' concentrate around th'areas of the body that tend to be associated with chakra points.

Though I'unno about not much discussion, MSH. It's usually spawned a page or two of discussion every time it came up, and it's came up a few times. More often than visual snow, I think.

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Wait, no, that was cybernator/ Assault Suits Valken.

How many people played that, anyway? You don't hear much about somewhat minor SNES games like that anymore...

I mean, that and Phalanx were a couple of my favorite games. Of course, everyone knows about Phalanx now due to the fact that it has an old banjo man on the cover despite being a shmup, but whatever.
Enough people it got a translation/retranslation, anyway.

I don't even know if I remember Phalanx*. Played Valken long after I no longer had a functioning SNES, but that other one... Metal Warriors? That played somewhat similar I actually rocked with on a console, back in the day. Then later came Front Mission: Gun Hazard. There's something about that side-scrolling mecha control scheme sort of thing that was just kinda' awesome. The general aesthetic of it, I guess. I'd play the crap out of something more modern along the lines of Gun Hazard, I think.

*E: Looking it up, definitely not. Never played it, even if I was aware of it at some point. About the only side-scrolling SHMUP from the SNES era I particularly enjoyed or played much was R-Type, iirc. Dabbled a little with gradius but eehhh.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: March 16, 2014, 10:56:40 pm »
*squirts his special sauce all over Tavlieno's awaiting face*
Ew.
You and your "silken folds" have no room to comment =_=

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... votoms? I... I think I remember the SNES game? Know the name as an anime, but never saw any. Hrm.

Wait, no, that was cybernator/ Assault Suits Valken. Though there does appear to be an actual Votoms SNES game I don't think I ever played. Hrm.

Though ah. Yeah, I've seen a lil' Patlabor. Plus it's come up in crossover fanfiction a bit over the years, stuff like that. Some of the old Ranma 1/2 fic writers were somewhat fond of it. Somewhere on the same level as that... other one. The one with the boss lingerie saleswomen or... something. Nene the techy policewoman whatsit. Whatever that was.

E: Bubblegum Crisis. There we go.

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