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Jeb Bush couldn't save his own arse with an elephant sized colonoscope, a set of metallurgist's tongs, and a whole herd of gorillas manning the wench.

May be some lingering resentment from when the bugger was FL's gov. Just a little.

S'definitely kinda' amusing how we seem to interpret that as a hug, rather than the cat holding on so it can tear out the prey's throat with its teeth and disembowel the prey with its hind legs. Lookatit so adorable it's RENDING THE FLESH OF ITS VICTIM d'aww.

If cats could read and were large enough to take us in an open fight, they would murder us and eat our livers, but that has nothing to do with what we feed them or the ability to read. They'd murdernom us because they're (cute, fuzzy, purr-y) sadistic little murderbeasts that murdernom basically anything that can't fight them off and some things that can.

Steam really only needs you connected to the net intermittently to update, and any game that does not by itself require an internet connection will run fine offline.

Except some people have problems. You haven't, and that's good for you, but the whole computer thing means different systems and different results. It's a thing that happens. I've personally had steam do some pretty off stuff, both on and offline, which is why when I actually need it running I tend to just suspend the bloody thing so it shuts up. More nuisance than anything, but the price is right.

... shouldn't this discussion be happening in a different thread, though?

Needs a guardian, which may or may not necessitate MZ (MZ definitely thinks so, and good for him.). S'why I mentioned adoption, up above. See foisting the kid on grandparents/relatives/etc. happen pretty often, too. Not good juju, but it's definitely the same "cut ties and to hell with it" concept.

@ MZ: Yeah, personal inclination and whatnot does tend to nix the hypothetical when it's brought into the practical. Which is usually good -- as you say, the kid doesn't deserve it*, and you're definitely a better person for sticking around. But that doesn't actually cut it out as an option. You'd be a terrible person if you did cut and run, and she'd be a lot worse off, but... you could. Only thing stopping you is the (primarily social/interpersonal, in your case) cost. Same hypothetical sense that SG brought up.

Just like Vec or m'self or whoever could dump family/current situation/whatever and dip. Consequences and results likely not (nearly) as heavy, on a personal level or otherwise, but it's the same sort of thing, through and through. When bridges burn, things are on fire, regardless of whether it's a big fire or little.

*Cousin of mine's actually been fighting a pretty damn similar situation for several years now. Mostly got the other parent out of the picture, but...

@Nax: It can, yeah. But keep at it. Give it a good go, swap counselors if you need to. It can be a tremendous aid, once you find the right person to help you, but definitely getting that initial time and effort investment is (one of) the hardest parts.

Huh. Even if you surrender custody? I mean, I know you'd still have to do child support, but I wasn't aware there was a geographic limit on that so long as the money kept coming in. Had at least one family member that was still paying support from overseas for a while. Different state(s), different situation, but still.

S'far as I'm aware, though, that hypothetical "cut ties and dip" still exists once you've got kids/marriage/etc. You'd just have to dump those, too. Adoption, divorce, bankruptcy, walk. Notably more serious consequences, but the "hypothetical" is still there. There's also the "eat the jail time and walk off" option. I've known a few (utter bastards, to be honest, but still) folks that have done that.